Muhammad Ali or Bruce Lee?

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Re: withoutadoubt

Originally posted by whiskyhotel
If it was a real street fight without a doubt Ali would fall. I have cold facts to support this statement : The Story of Muhammed Ali vs Antonio Inoki
Ali fought a pro-wrestler in what was known as one of the first televised mixed martial arts events (sort of). To this day in the MMA world, it is known as a legendary fight, and nobody here realizes the genius tactics of Inoki.

Ali thought he was going to have it easy against some stupid Japanese Pro-Wrestler. Ali was familiar with Pro Wrestling at the time as he based his entire charisma off Georgous George, and he knew it wasn't real. (Not everyone did at the time)

Ali scouted Inoki a few days before the fight, and got scared as hell when he saw the grappling that Inoki was doing. He demanded a change to the rules.

1. Since Inoki wore no gloves, he was not permitted to use any closed fist punches, or any strikes to the head.

2. Inoki was not allowed to grapple with Ali or take him down to the ground.

The rules were heavily stacked in Ali's favor, and it was going to take one hell of a gameplan for Inoki to defeat the worlds greatest fighter. Throughout the fight Inoki used diving leg kicks to attack Ali's mobility and possibly leave his legs so weak that he could not stand or gain enough ground to throw a punch. This strategy left Ali unable to attack him with crisp punches as he was always wear of Inoki dropping with another leg kick. The bout was scored a draw by all three judges and this was in spite of Inoki losing one point late in the fight for inactivity.

The crowd booed non-stop and were furious with the lackluster fight they were watching. Journalists did nothing but trash the fight and the western world only heard of "Ali fighting some Japanese Martial Artist who fought like a little girl and was running the whole match". But days later when the specific rules for the match were revealed to the public, and people became aware of the great strategy that Inoki used to battle Ali, he became a legend in Japan. And to this day stadiums will roar louder for him than for any current fighter.

Ali continued his great boxing career and went down as arguably the greatest of all time. After his retirement his managers revealed that a large part of it was due to Inoki's leg kicks on Ali, and that he had never been the same since.

Truly one of the most important fights in the history of man to man combat. Not the most exciting, but so much was at stake, and so much came out of it. Currently Inoki and Ali are good friends and visit each other yearly at the Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye events where Ali is always a guest of honor. Ali Gave Inoki his "Bom-Ba-Ye" theme song in tribute to his fighting spirit.

There you have it and this guy Inoki as great a martial artist as he was could not be compared to Bruce Lee who at that time had been working on martial art, encompassing the best of the striking and grappling arts.
Come on people the giant basketballer abudul karem jabbar was a student of Bruce and they really did fight each other, the man is one record of saying not once did he ever touch Lee. Lee was not just an actor he was a fighter and never, ever shied away from proving that he was the best.
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Preach on Brotha..Preach on..

People never seem to take into account all the stipulations that go on in a boxing ring, particularly the ones that went on in the Ali/Inoki fight.
Obviously Ali is a better boxer than Lee..and he could beat him in the boxing ring fairly easily...outside of the boxing ring is definately a different story.

bruce lee would woop ali's ass anyday of the week he mastered all karate styles

He couldn't beat Ali's ass if Ali had even turned round and handed his ass to Lee saying:
"Mr.Lee...Heres my ass...and here is a beating stick, please beat my ass, my hands are tied and I will not and cannot retaliate in any way".

ali also got into a 'fight' with andre the giant. twas pretty funny

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He couldn't beat Ali's ass if Ali had even turned round and handed his ass to Lee saying:
"Mr.Lee...Heres my ass...and here is a beating stick, please beat my ass, my hands are tied and I will not and cannot retaliate in any way".

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Originally posted by The Highlord
Bruce Lee is a thousand times faster then Ali, I thougt everybody knew that, hes strong as a mountain, havint you seen any pictures of him? mucles muscles and more muscles I doubt that Ali would even get to land a hit on him, he would have been lying on the floor before he even streched his arm out 5 inces...

I'm really getting tired of saying this...
Your hero brucey...
Took Steroids to obtain his physique. Which is the reason why he looks so cut.

and the fact that he took steroids has no bearing on the subject at hand. steroids dont make you fast or a better fighter.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He couldn't beat Ali's ass if Ali had even turned round and handed his ass to Lee saying:
"Mr.Lee...Heres my ass...and here is a beating stick, please beat my ass, my hands are tied and I will not and cannot retaliate in any way".

Bruce Lee would woop his ass its another poll on this other web forum site and everybody agrees

Not everybody... A lot of people have voted out of loyalty to a movie character that Lee plays and has choreographed for.... His real fights we never as well documented as Ali's... Ali would have destroyed him because of Alis speed, timing, anticipation,range,power, overall size and ability to get out of harms way would stuff Lee.
Lee has also said that he'd never fight Ali (Knowing the suicidal implications of this)......

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Not everybody... A lot of people have voted out of loyalty to a movie character that Lee plays and has choreographed for.... His real fights we never as well documented as Ali's... Ali would have destroyed him because of Alis speed, timing, anticipation,range,power, overall size and ability to get out of harms way would stuff Lee.
Lee has also said that he'd never fight Ali (Knowing the suicidal implications of this)......

how the hell would u know about his real fights no one knows but the person who did which is dead now.............the chinese killed his ass for teaching americans the old secrets of chinas fightong styles

Originally posted by PunisherFan33
how the hell would u know about his real fights no one knows but the person who did which is dead now.............the chinese killed his ass for teaching americans the old secrets of chinas fightong styles

Exactly... 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Exactly... 🙂

yea but there were like 20 of those ****ers so he was out numbered and they knew if they only sent one that Bruce would kill his ass

Originally posted by AdventChild
I'm really getting tired of saying this...
Your hero brucey...
Took Steroids to obtain his physique. Which is the reason why he looks so cut.

Which makes your package 2/3 shorter than its normal length

Originally posted by PunisherFan33
yea but there were like 20 of those ****ers so he was out numbered and they knew if they only sent one that Bruce would kill his ass

Movies don't count

Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
Which makes your package 2/3 shorter than its normal length

Movies don't count

They just don't read back. Bruce Lee is a dwarf. Ali is a big guy, outside of movies the god big guy beats any of snow whites friends in seconds.

Ali in Seconds 🙂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and the fact that he took steroids has no bearing on the subject at hand. steroids dont make you fast or a better fighter.

i was talking about the muscles muscles and more muscles comment...read before you type please...saves you and me time...thanks

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
They just don't read back. Bruce Lee is a dwarf. Ali is a big guy, outside of movies the god big guy beats any of snow whites friends in seconds.

Ali in Seconds 🙂

They should just look up references ✅

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Not everybody... A lot of people have voted out of loyalty to a movie character that Lee plays and has choreographed for.... His real fights we never as well documented as Ali's... Ali would have destroyed him because of Alis speed, timing, anticipation,range,power, overall size and ability to get out of harms way would stuff Lee.
Lee has also said that he'd never fight Ali (Knowing the suicidal implications of this)......

bruce lee would have fought ali...just the small matter of him drinking some poisoned tea and dying got in the way. anyway, bruce lee was trained in a combination of Wing Chun, Tai Chi and Ju Jitsu, making him an extraordinarily agile fighter with extreme speed. martial artists are trained in reading the fight, anticipating the next move. lee would have been able to see ali's punches even before they were thrown thats the way he trained..no matter how fast the boxer is, when using only his fists to fight, he becomes more predictable. all bruce lee would have to do is duck a punch and deliver a swift kick to a joint, say the knee, and voila, ali has a broken leg. fight's over

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
They just don't read back. Bruce Lee is a dwarf. Ali is a big guy, outside of movies the god big guy beats any of snow whites friends in seconds.

Ali in Seconds 🙂

ur basing this on size? then u could say that some 500 lb wrestler could beat ali? highly unlikely. u have to base it on ability. bruce lee cud literally kick the shit out of u. one kick in the head and ali would be out for the count. he wouldnt even see it coming

Like I said before, don't use movies as references

Bruce Lee Ali is quick but he aint faster than Bruce In the movies he made they would have to slow down the action because Bruce lee's real punch was basically to quick for the eye Bruce Lee beleived in mixing martial art styles not just using one style. UFC a fighter that just uses one style mostly loses Bruce Lee is way better rounded when it comes to fighting he could find ways to work around Ali