Originally posted by grey fox
Heres why Ali loses.Has Ali physically destroyed a training bag that weighs slightly more then him in a single blow , no . Bruce has.
Has lee ever done that to person who was actually FIGHTING him? No.
Originally posted by grey fox
Has Ali knocked a guy double his weight nearly 3-5 feet in the air ? Bruce has.
Has bruce ever done that to an fighter who was fighting him? Not some underpaid Chinese guy who was standing still the entire time? No...
Originally posted by grey fox
Ali takes a SERIOUS ass kicking.
Um... nope. Ali's feats in an actually combat situation > Bruce punching stationary objects in demos and beating up trained people in movies.
Bruce Lee's strikes are lightning - Bruce Lee's striking speed from 3 feet away was five hundredths of a second
Not to mention hes effin strong - "Wally Jay - "I last saw Bruce after he moved from Culver City to Bel Air. He had a big heavy bag hanging out on his patio. It weighed 300lbs. I could hardly move it at all. Bruce said to me "Hey, Wally, watch this" and he jumped back and kicked it and this monster of a heavy bag went up to the ceiling, Thump!!! And came back down. I still can't believe the power that guy had"
Muhammad Ali goes down. Besides, Bruce Lee is chinese.
Originally posted by Blaxican
Was the bag dodging and blocking Bruce's punches with it's speed? No?Ali wins.
Point being... despite Lee's small frame he was an EXTREMELY strong man, you get that way when you fanatically train yourself 24-7. Now couple that strength with his speed and you get a kick that can send a much larger man slamming to the floor.
Originally posted by Robtard
Point being... despite Lee's small frame he was an EXTREMELY strong man, you get that way when you fanatically train yourself 24-7. Now couple that strength with his speed and you get a kick that can send a much larger man slamming to the floor.
That's true, but it's still a countered by his weight. Ali only needs to hit him once or twice to KO him, or at least send him flying.
Originally posted by Soleran
Raise your hand if you read his book. I KNOW 100lbs is a losing fight, unless folks with experience want to disclaim me.
Your sole basis for Lee losing boils down to him being smaller and that is shit; I bet you pound for pound Lee was physically stronger, could Ali do 2 finger 1 arm push-ups? Could Ali repeatedly curl 80 pounds with one arm? Could Ali toss around body bags with his hits like Lee?
Originally posted by Blaxican
That's true, but it's still a countered by his weight. Ali only needs to hit him once or twice to KO him, or at least send him flying.
B.S. Smaller guys take hits from larger guys and don't fall down in MMA fights, why is Ali punching Lee supposed to be this MASSIVE destroyer?
E.G. Royce Gracie used to fight much larger guys and he'd still win despite a 50-100+ weight difference. Size isn't the end all be all to winning.
Originally posted by Robtard
B.S. Smaller guys take hits from larger guys and don't fall down in MMA fights, why is Ali punching Lee supposed to be this MASSIVE destroyer?
Because Ali isn'y yoru averager MMA fighter... he was the best of the best of his time, and could punch harder then most of the guys in hsi circuit. He WAS the bruce Lee of his division.
Originally posted by Robtard
E.G. Royce Gracie used to fight much larger guys and he'd still win despite a 50-100+ weight difference. Size isn't the end all be all to winning.
I never said it was.
Originally posted by Blaxican
Because he IS a rag doll? Buffer people then Lee have been downed by Ali in only a few punches before.
How do you know he is a rag doll? Hes been training hes abs 24/7 - Lee believed that the abdominal muscles were one of the most important muscle groups for a martial artist, since virtually every movement requires some degree of abdominal work. Perhaps more importantly, the "abs" are like a shell, protecting the ribs and vital organs. Bruce Lee's washboard abs did not come from mere abdominal training; he was also a proponent of cardiovascular conditioning and would regularly run, jump rope, and ride a stationary bicycle. A typical exercise for Lee would be to run a distance of two to six miles in fifteen to forty-five minutes.