Originally posted by Robtard
Your sole basis for Lee losing boils down to him being smaller and that is shit; I bet you pound for pound Lee was physically stronger, could Ali do 2 finger 1 arm push-ups? Could Ali repeatedly curl 80 pounds with one arm? Could Ali toss around body bags with his hits like Lee?
Are you reading this? Your limited perspective is painfully obvious.
100lbs between two trained combatants.
Are you Reading this, 100lbs?
Originally posted by Blaxican
Because Ali isn'y yoru averager MMA fighter... he was the best of the best of his time, and could punch harder then most of the guys in hsi circuit. He WAS the bruce Lee of his division.I never said it was.
ALi was a great boxer no doubt, but boxing has come a long way since then... Tyson in his peak could out-power and out-speed Ali with his hits.
Ali isn't the end all be all to boxing...
Originally posted by Soleran
Are you reading this? Your limited perspective is painfully obvious.100lbs between two trained combatants.
Are you Reading this, 100lbs?
Talk about a "limited perspective" chief... Like I said, all you see is "weight" and that's retarded... Lighter/smaller "trained combatants" have defeated heavier/larger "trained combatants", or didn't you know.
Royce Gracie put the beat on a guy who outweighed him by 70+ pounds, but by your rational, Royce should have lost. Explain that one.
Originally posted by Blaxican
I'm just wondering... why do you think Heavy Weights are all i ntheir own division, even though lightweights might be faster?
To keep a level of fairness.
BTW, not all fighting sports stick to weight classes, PRIDE allows lighter fighters to fight heavier fighters in non-title fights. UFC in the beginning didn't have weight classes either.
Originally posted by Robtard
Talk about a "limited perspective" chief... Like I said, all you see is "weight" and that's retarded... Lighter/smaller "trained combatants" have defeated heavier/larger "trained combatants", or didn't you know.Royce Gracie put the beat on a guy who outweighed him by 70+ pounds, but by your rational, Royce should have lost. Explain that one.
You aren't a fighter, that's obvious.
Lee is a striker, Gracie is a grappler.
100 lbs is freakin huge for TRAINED combatants to give up.
Why is this so hard to grasp, it's not 100lbs and untrained fighters, it's 100lbs and TRAINED fighters. Big doesn't win fights granted, however when combatants have training 100lbs is freakin HUGE.
Just stop talking about this, Lee would more then likely get shit stomped.
Originally posted by Soleran
You aren't a fighter, that's obvious.Lee is a striker, Gracie is a grappler.
100 lbs is freakin huge for TRAINED combatants to give up.
Why is this so hard to grasp, it's not 100lbs and untrained fighters, it's 100lbs and TRAINED fighters. Big doesn't win fights granted, however when combatants have training 100lbs is freakin HUGE.
Just stop talking about this, Lee would more then likely get shit stomped.
And you don't know what you're talking about, that's obvious. Tell me, what are your expert fighting stats that makes you so knowledgeable?
Lee was a striker and a grappler and besides Lee's smaller frame, he didn't weight a mere 120lbs as you claim, with his musculature (muscle is heavy) he weighed probably closer to 135-140lbs.
You sound like a parrot "100lbs!"... "100lbs"... "100Lbs"... I know 100lbs is a HUGE advantage, but the weight difference between the two was probably closer to 80lbs (still a large advantage) and even then, weight isn't the end all be all to a fight. Smaller "trained" fighters have taken down larger "trained" fighters before *gasp* and dare I say smaller trained fighters have taken hits from larger trained fighters and not been obliterated as you seem to think.
Oh, you realize that 70lbs in grappling is also a "HUGE" thing to give up, you don't think weight is an advantage in grappling? Tank Abbot beat a guy who weighed 75lbs more than him without grappling...
Explain how Ali an expert but one-dimensional fighter is going to deal with a kick to the knee, an elbow to the face or a choke-hold?
Originally posted by Blaxican
The same way he dodges everything else. 😬 ALi "dodged" punches more often then just blocked them or absorbed them like the other boxers of hsi time. One of the reasons why he was so special.And it's already been confirmed that Lee did weigh 125, almost approximate.
Why are you limiting Lee to just boxing in the hypothetical fight? Also, Lee's strikes would be faster than Foreman's or Frazier's punches and Ali didn't always dodge those did he? Ali got hit and not just once in a blue moon.
If you say so, but being 5'7" and having that much muscle, 120lbs seems about 10-15lbs too light. I've read his weight "fluctuated between 126 to 145 pounds" (dependning on muscle build).
Of course Ali would get hit, multiple times maybe. I'd just to like say out right now that though I think Ali would win trhis would be the fight of his life.
However, I doubt Lee would be able to block/dodge all of Ali's shots as well. which leads to why I think Ali would win...
I believe that Ali could probably take more damage then Lee could. I mean, as a Professional boxer Ali has had to go through 15 rounds of punishment then Lee and his 3-5 rounds max. Ali's just got better durability, imo.
Originally posted by Blaxican
Of course Ali would get hit, multiple times maybe. I'd just to like say out right now that though I think Ali would win trhis would be the fight of his life.However, I doubt Lee would be able to block/dodge all of Ali's shots as well. which leads to why I think Ali would win...
I believe that Ali could probably take more damage then Lee could. I mean, as a Professional boxer Ali has had to go through 15 rounds of punishment then Lee and his 3-5 rounds max. Ali's just got better durability, imo.
Okay IMO, weight don't matter much. In Small vs Big, its whose smarter. And Bruce is CHINESE. Automatically makes him smarter than Ali.
His abs are like steel, it has to be seeing as he trained it for 24/7. Ali's punch is useless.
Why are we limiting Bruce Lee to punching? He can kick too. I would like to see Ali defend his lower body against Bruce's lightning strikes.
We saw what Bruce can do with 1-inch punch, but what the hell can he do with a full length punch hmmm?
ALSO!
Bruce Lee > Chuck Norris > God
Bruce Lee
Originally posted by Blaxican
Chuck Norris is white. White people > Chinese.Bruce Lee could never beat Chuck Norris outside of hollywood. And asking what Ali would do against Lee's "lightning fast kicks" is like saying what would Lee do against Ali's lightning fast punches...
phail.
Norris was a good friend to Lee and Norris had extreme respect for Lee's fighting ability and physical capabilities.