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im glad you showed me that, you proved me wrong but he also carried the sub to a safe place on land with one hand so he still displayed that he could lift more than youre thinking.

Originally posted by derrick24
Have you heard anything about pressure when you go so far down in a ocean, you might havent heard of that because it seems like your talking about a swimming pool. 🤣

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Ice breath. Heat vision. Grab his ass and haul him into space.

Ice breath wont work, heat vision wont work, grabbing and trying to take him to space wont work and all of this is due to the fact that he is totally indestructible by physical means while hes flying. How could you grip a force field and throw it, you cant. Superman has no way of beating cannonball, someone that can absorb any type of punishment superman throw at him and give it back.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That sort of pressure is from all sides, INCLUDING pushing up from below. That's a nonfactor to lifting something in water.

I said he was right but he also lifted it on land and sat it in place with one hand. colossus can give superman a run for his money.

Originally posted by derrick24
Ice breath wont work, heat vision wont work, grabbing and trying to take him to space wont work and all of this is due to the fact that he is totally indestructible by physical means while hes flying. How could you grip a force field and throw it, you cant. Superman has no way of beating cannonball, someone that can absorb any type of punishment superman throw at him and give it back.

And I just realized that you were talking about Ultimate Collosus and not the 616 collosus.

Originally posted by derrick24
I said he was right but he also lifted it on land and sat it in place with one hand. colossus can give superman a run for his money.

616 collosus never did anything like that.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're talking about Ultimate Collosus.

616 collosus never did anything like that.

he is just as strong, have you forgot that with age, mutants get stronger. Colossus durability and strength has increased. He is metallo, and from my knowledge metallo gives superman a run for his money.

Originally posted by derrick24
he is just as strong, have you forgot that with age, mutants get stronger. Colossus durability and strength has increased. He is metallo, and from my knowledge metallo gives superman a run for his money.

Different dimensions have different powers.

Originally posted by Creshosk
His forcefeild is a kinetic forcefeild, that doesn't mean that it protects him form thermal energy attacks.

And I just realized that you were talking about Ultimate Collosus and not the 616 collosus.

You dont know anything about cannonball. cannonball can absorb and take any type of punishment. The guy grabbed a villian and ran head on to a gas tank and flew right out of the explosion. Superman heat vision isnt working on cannonball, sorry to tell you that. superman punches isnt working on cannonball or his ice breath. Now if this is the young cannonball superman would own him but im talking about the adult cannonball, the uber powerful one.

i looked at the bio of both the ultimate and main colossus and they have the same powers, nothing different. He is more than a challenge for superman.

Originally posted by derrick24
i looked at the bio of both the ultimate and main colossus and they have the same powers, nothing different. He is more than a challenge for superman.

Ultimate collosus's strengthis listed at class 100. . .

There is a big difference there.

Originally posted by derrick24
You dont know anything about cannonball. cannonball can absorb and take any type of punishment. The guy grabbed a villian and ran head on to a gas tank and flew right out of the explosion. Superman heat vision isnt working on cannonball, sorry to tell you that. superman punches isnt working on cannonball or his ice breath. Now if this is the young cannonball superman would own him but im talking about the adult cannonball, the uber powerful one.

Originally posted by Creshosk
616 collosus's strength is listed at 70 tons.

Ultimate collosus's strengthis listed at class 100. . .

There is a big difference there.

Heat vision and ice breath are not kinetic attacks, they are thermal attacks.

Answer this question; why didnt gladiator heat vision work on cannonball. why when ice man covered cannonball in ice during a training session he expanded his force field and broke free. Is superman powers different from both of these characters.

the only weakness cannonball has is magic, it tears him up everytime, it superman dont have that, hes not getting thru that force field.

are you getting colossus strength from the old version of marvel directory, go look at the updated version, it will simply tell you hes in the 100 ton range.

Originally posted by derrick24
are you getting colossus strength from the old version of marvel directory, go look at the updated version, it will simply tell you hes in the 100 ton range.

Originally posted by http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=174
As Colossus he can left (press) at least 70 tons under optimal conditions. [/b]

Originally posted by derrick24
Answer this question; why didnt gladiator heat vision work on cannonball. why when ice man covered cannonball in ice during a training session he expanded his force field and broke free. Is superman powers different from both of these characters.

answer this question, do you know anything about cannonball, do you know that once he is in flight, theres nothing that can get thru his field, he is COMPLETELY INDESTRUCTIBLE. Nothing can harm him, he has been thru a explosion, superstrong guys tryed to break thru the force field, he didnt get fazed by any kind of blasts, etc... He cannot be hurt once in flight. would you like for me to give you a site on where you can read everything up on cannonball, so that you can know what he is currently capable of. Ice breath isnt working, heat vision isnt working or superman punches, sorry to hurt your feelings superman fan.

And it was stated that gladiator heat vision burns hotter than the center of a star. It dont sounds like superman heat vision is as powerful as gladiators.

Originally posted by derrick24
answer this question, do you know anything about cannonball, do you know that once he is in flight, theres nothing that can get thru his field, he is COMPLETELY INDESTRUCTIBLE. Nothing can harm him, he has been thru a explosion, superstrong guys tryed to break thru the force field, he didnt get fazed by any kind of blasts, etc... He cannot be hurt once in flight. would you like for me to give you a site on where you can read everything up on cannonball, so that you can know what he is currently capable of. Ice breath isnt working, heat vision isnt working or superman punches, sorry to hurt your feelings superman fan.

Was it going to be this:

http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=140

that talks about protection from movement and related energy(kinetic) attacks?

that says virtually indestructable?

And why wouldn't these attacks work? They're not kinetic attacks. They are thermal.

Originally posted by derrick24
And it was stated that gladiator heat vision burns hotter than the center of a star. It dont sounds like superman heat vision is as powerful as gladiators.

thats bio from marvel directory lost it touch so long ago - go to this site it will give you a better bio of ADULT cannonball. Another thing i hate cannonball because they made him unbeatable.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=80