Originally posted by Draco69
Captain Britain is far weaker in strength and durability to Superman. You're kidding yourself. Please.This isn't Fury vs. Superman. This is Superman vs. Cannonball. Fury had the strength to break Cannonball's field. So can Superman.
It seems that Fury has a specific power that negated Cannonball's blast field.
Originally posted by Draco69
Yes. I will attempt to answer this "real good". Does it say he's magical? NO. It says exactly what I have been arguing he's technological. A friggin robot. Jesus Christ.And yes Superman can beat Fury.
draco i have to disagree with you on this one. Have you seen any comics with fury in them besides the 1 with cannonball, it was classified that he has unlimited strength and that nothing can kill him. He can reconstruct his body to work around any powers you have and he can also create any weapon that can kill you. i think from what i have seen of fury in the past, even in the xmen book that he could superman with no problem and i think he could do it fast. You all give superman to much credit. if superman was so powerful he wouldnt have gotten beat to death by doomsday or he wouldnt have gotten koed by hawkman with 1 punch or knocked out by shazam with 1 punch. Cannonball has the power to take on and even beat superman but both would lose horribly to fury if there fighting them alone.
Such as? I read the arc. Fury appeared outta nowhere. Cannonball attacked. Fury broke his leg. Rachel attacked. Fury hit her into the stratosphere.
Superman is simply to verstile for Cannonball. Derrick24's best scenario is: "Superman stupid. He gonna hit Cannonball forever then Cannonball hit him back."
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Huh? Superman's abilities r nothing like fury's. Why would we logically make that comparison? Especially when we conveniently already have Cannonball beating a character with the exact same abilities as SM only better?!?! Regardless, Fury beat Cannonball as a TEEN! IF SM fans can make such bias suggestions, is it fair for me to come to the conclusion that an ADULT CB's field would hold up against Fury, and that he would trash Superman?
Originally posted by Draco69my best scenario is that superman hits cannonball powering him up and get knocked out with his own strength, oh and by the way fury has the power to work around anybody powers, its no single person that could take fury by themselves.
Such as? I read the arc. Fury appeared outta nowhere. Cannonball attacked. Fury broke his leg. Rachel attacked. Fury hit her into the stratosphere.Superman is simply to verstile for Cannonball. Derrick24's best scenario is: "Superman stupid. He gonna hit Cannonball forever then Cannonball hit him back."
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since when did Marvel adopt a some characters have a weakness to magic rule? i dont think that Cannon ball is vulnerable to magic any more or less than anybody else. you ppl must be freaking insane if you think he can beat superman, or gladiator for that matter. glad was just not taking him seriously. i wouldnt call that a fight
another thing, have you ever seen cannonball knocked out by a single punch, i havent. besides the fight with fury have you ever seen cannonball even bleed because i havent. I can bring up all day where superman is bleeding, lets put it like this, all of his comics. Fury is superior to doomsday and superman. in the doomsday saga when have doomsday hit someone as far as fury hit rachel, i dont think doomsday have ever pulled a feat like that.
Originally posted by manjaro
since when did Marvel adopt a some characters have a weakness to magic rule? i dont think that Cannon ball is vulnerable to magic any more or less than anybody else. you ppl must be freaking insane if you think he can beat superman, or gladiator for that matter. glad was just not taking him seriously. i wouldnt call that a fight
i know in that fight that gladiator was toying with him but during that fight gladiator also got tire of cannonball effort and said he was going to punch him to the sun. Now this was a kid cannonball, and he absorbed a punch from a guy with unlimited strength and didnt even move a inch, imagine a cannonball who has mastered his power can do.
Superman dont have a way around cannonball powers, if superman did he would have worked around doomsday invulnerability.
*sigh* SO many inaccuracies. I don't know where to begin. First of: Derrick24 in your simple mind you may think you're winning this debate but you're not. You're simply sprouting the same nonsense over and over again until the smarter ones (Digimark 007) realize it's like arguing to a wall and give up.
Originally posted by derrick24
draco i have to disagree with you on this one. Have you seen any comics with fury in them besides the 1 with cannonball, it was classified that he has unlimited strength and that nothing can kill him.He can reconstruct his body to work around any powers you have and he can also create any weapon that can kill you.
When it comes to anything regarding Superman you disagree with me.
Anyhoo. Unlimited strength? Hardly. Captain Britain match him blow for blow before dying. Captain Britain is Class 95. Superman is the billions. Please. Superman would be analyzing the Fury with his microvision and his genius level intellect and thinking speed that rivals supercomputers to come up with a weakness.
Originally posted by derrick24
He can reconstruct his body to work around any powers you have and he can also create any weapon that can kill you.
You said this twice. Why? Lacking new material? 😉
Originally posted by derrick24
i think from what i have seen of fury in the past, even in the xmen book that he could superman with no problem and i think he could do it fast.
It ain't happenin. If Captain Britain can defeat Fury so can Superman. Just faster.
Originally posted by derrick24
You all give superman to much credit. if superman was so powerful he wouldnt have gotten beat to death by doomsday or he wouldnt have gotten koed by hawkman with 1 punch or knocked out by shazam with 1 punch. Cannonball has the power to take on and even beat superman but both would lose horribly to fury if there fighting them alone.
You're what we call an "anti-Superman fanboy". You despise Superman with a vengenance as obviously seen with your prior posts. This suggests major bias. And very narrow thinking.
Do you know who Doomsday is? Of course you don't.
Hawkman used a very powerful magical device.
Captain Marvel used magical lightening.
Cannonball has a powerfall forcefield. Superman has an even more powerful forcefield....and a vast array of other powers.
draco, i want you to go here and read up on fury, it simply states that he can create any weopon to destroy ANY foe, could that also be a way that he broked thru cannonball forcefield.
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1907
Originally posted by Wynndar
Huh? Superman's abilities r nothing like fury's. Why would we logically make that comparison? Especially when we conveniently already have Cannonball beating a character with the exact same abilities as SM only better?!?! Regardless, Fury beat Cannonball as a TEEN! IF SM fans can make such bias suggestions, is it fair for me to come to the conclusion that an ADULT CB's field would hold up against Fury, and that he would trash Superman?
A teen? Cannonball's an adult now. What the heck are ya talking about. Is this thread for some obscure older Cannonball that doesn't really exist?
There are no bias suggestions except for the obvious ones for Cannonball. 🙄
Originally posted by derrick24
my best scenario is that superman hits cannonball powering him up and get knocked out with his own strength, oh and by the way fury has the power to work around anybody powers, its no single person that could take fury by themselves.
That's it? That's your best scenario? How is Cannonball gonna hit Superman. Superspeed remember? Please.
You're basing the Fury on a very limited appearances. So what if his powers work on Captain Britain and mutants. How do you absolutely know it will work on Superman. It wouldn't matter anyway.
Originally posted by derrick24
draco, i want you to go here and read up on fury, it simply states that he can create any weopon to destroy ANY foe, could that also be a way that he broked thru cannonball forcefield.http://uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1907
Stop blogging. Retain your thoughts in ONE post. Not a barrage of double, triple or even quadruple posts.
Wow. A vague paragraph. So what?
Originally posted by derrick24
i know in that fight that gladiator was toying with him but during that fight gladiator also got tire of cannonball effort and said he was going to punch him to the sun. Now this was a kid cannonball, and he absorbed a punch from a guy with unlimited strength and didnt even move a inch, imagine a cannonball who has mastered his power can do.
This is what us rational KMC members call "PIS" Cannonball>Gladiator> Pretty much everyone else. So OBVIOUSLY Cannonball is the most powerful mutant on Earth, right? Wrong.
Originally posted by derrick24
Superman dont have a way around cannonball powers, if superman did he would have worked around doomsday invulnerability.
Uh, he did. Three times. 🙄
Originally posted by Draco69
That's it? That's your best scenario? How is Cannonball gonna hit Superman. Superspeed remember? Please.You're basing the Fury on a very limited appearances. So what if his powers work on Captain Britain and mutants. How do you absolutely know it will work on Superman. It wouldn't matter anyway.
ok superman has super speed but he get tagged by batman, slapped around by venom, go the breaks beaten off of him by spiderman (who had the aid of lex and doc ock, covering him with red sunlight). He get tagged by brainiac, metallo etc.. but you keep bringing up his super speed and im bias. 😆
Originally posted by derrick24
draco fury fought 2 captain brittain and he lost 80% of his power during the fight, then they destroyed him but he came back stronger than before.
So? What does this mean? Nothing. All you have is a 200 something word paragraph describing his abilities. Nothing more.
Originally posted by derrick24
Answer this draco; do you also think that superman could beat rachel.
Use a question mark next time, sweetie. 😉
Unfortunately Rachel's abilities are EXTREMELY vague. Claramont says she still has a portion of the Phoenix Force but certain events have said otherwise.
Since Rachel is apparently no longer on Galactus level is and is extremely depowered, sure Superman can beat her if he takes her out quickly. It's more in Rachel's favor though.
And what the hell does this have to do with Cannonball?
Originally posted by Draco69
This is what us rational KMC members call "PIS" Cannonball>Gladiator> Pretty much everyone else. So OBVIOUSLY Cannonball is the most powerful mutant on Earth, right? Wrong.Uh, he did. Three times. 🙄
yep and 1 of them times he got killed, another time doomsday was sent in a time stream and another time he was in a teleporter on the moon. How did superman work around doomsday durability, he didnt. Like i said before superman isnt breaking thru cannonball force field.