Originally posted by FieryBalrog
and again, Superman doesnt know how CB's field works. If CB flies out of his first use of ice breath like it was nothing, Supes isnt gonna know "but hey, if I keep blowing on him, it will eventually drain the kinetic energy powered force field!" Anymore than hes gonna know that heat vision powers UP the force field. He doesnt have a force field detecto-meter. He's not Richard Reed either.
Originally posted by DrDoom
One time shot? As soon as nitrogen hits anything it freezes that object
Liquid nitrogen will not freeze anything instantly. On a science trip back when I was in school, we watched a scientist hold a bannana in a vat of LN. After a coupla seconds it froze and he shattered it with a hammer.
Then he shocked everyone by putting his hand inside and taking it out again. It was fine.
He explained that the heat from your hand will protect it for a second or two. Any longer and all your heat is absorbed and the LN moves in for the kill lol.
So Cannonball having LN thrown at him proves nothing.
Superman is fast enough to give Cannonball a constant covering of ice-cold superbreath.
im ignoring whirly because he is full of insults. superman cannot beat cannonball, not by any kind of physical means, which ice breath is physical.
when sam and superman go into battle superman aint going to just think, i need to use my ice breath all day on this guy. hes going to try all of his tricks and he is going to think that this guy is totally indestructible. I never seen on any bio that cannonball weakness is extreme cold, it always says that he is indestructible in flight. I dont think that the ice breath would work. Cannonball only weakness, the only thing that could get thru the force field is magic, nothing else. If superman dont have magic, he aint winning but i could see cannonball winning this fight, due to the fact that he can absorb superman punches. How is superman going to know anyway that cannonball is absorbing everything he throws at him, he aint unless cannonball tells him. Superman will continue to try everything he can to beat cannonball, including throwing things at him, which will power him up. Superman will punch and use every means to defeat a guy that is trying to kill him, not know that he is powering up his opponent and that would be the end of the fight. Please dont say that cannonball isnt going to land a lick on him, if batman can do it, cannonball can do it all day.
yes cb can redirect kinetic energy, but there is a limit. he was able to redirect glads punch because a. it was only one punch and b. glad didnt know he could do something like that. so after realizing that he deflected a punch supes would be like hmmm lets see how he stands up to a barrage at super speeds
draco you would have convinced me if fury wasnt a magic based character that has powers to work around cannonball force field. Another thing i think that fury would humiliate superman. Read the bio on fury powers, he can create any weapon that can destroy any enemy. Superman cant pull any feat that fury can, good pic but the wrong post to put it on. If i had doctor strange vs cannonball, that would be a good post to put it on.
Originally posted by manjaro
i know here ppl are trying to go with this . you all wanna asy that since CB shook glads confience momentarily he'll do the same to superman right?....wrong! he can put up his kinetic field til the cows come home, kal-el is bashing his face in
He didnt just take the punch, he didnt feel it, he didnt move a inch when the punch hit the force field, he simply said is that all you got and sent the punch right back at him. I dont think superman is as durable as gladiator, since we have never seen gladiator bleed but we see superman bleed in all of his comics. If that punch would have landed on superman, he would have been koed.
There is no proof that Superman's punches will be any more effective in a super speed barrage. That isnt even logical. Nor is the continuous ice breath attack, thats just out of character. More than likely, Superman would bang on the field a couple times. Then when he gets that energy rechannelled back at him he would catch on and realize that trying to fight him straight up would only result in his own KO. Like I said, Superman can use superspeed to avoid CB, but ultimately neither character should be able to mount an offense against the other.
And why post the fight with Fury if Fury is magic based? We have already seen from Juggernaut beating CB that his shield is vulnerable to magic. Superman doesnt have regular access to a magically powered offense anyway.
That's the thing: Fury ISN'T Magical. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. And if you don't believe me:
draco i want you to read this real good ok, and then i want you to answer this question. Do you think superman has a chance of beating something with this kind of power and by the way it was classified in a captain britain book that fury is a magic base being.
Powers and Abilities:
cybiote with considerable strength, speed, and reflexes, inexhaustible endurance, near-invincibility thanks to a natural imperviousness to harm, recuperative powers, and the ability to absorb organic or inorganic matter into its system, tracking senses that work across dimensions, devastating energy blasts, cross-dimensional travel, capable of analyzing situations or individuals to implement changes on its body to neutralize or counteract any effect, and devise the ideal weapon systems to destroy any foe
Originally posted by derrick24
draco i want you to read this real good ok, and then i want you to answer this question. Do you think superman has a chance of beating something with this kind of power and by the way it was classified in a captain britain book that fury is a magic base being.Powers and Abilities:
cybiote with considerable strength, speed, and reflexes, inexhaustible endurance, near-invincibility thanks to a natural imperviousness to harm, recuperative powers, and the ability to absorb organic or inorganic matter into its system, tracking senses that work across dimensions, devastating energy blasts, cross-dimensional travel, capable of analyzing situations or individuals to implement changes on its body to neutralize or counteract any effect, and devise the ideal weapon systems to destroy any foe
Yes. I will attempt to answer this "real good". Does it say he's magical? NO. It says exactly what I have been arguing he's technological. A friggin robot. Jesus Christ.
And yes Superman can beat Fury.
do you know how old that bio is and it dont even give the entire bio of fury, superman superior. fury have the power to dwarf anyones power, thats how he broke thru captain brittain force field and killed him because shields are nothing to him. Fury have the power to kill any super being thats what he was created to do and he could easily crack thru the thin force field that superman has over his body and kill him.
Originally posted by derrick24
do you know how old that bio is and it dont even give the entire bio of fury, superman superior. fury have the power to dwarf anyones power, thats how he broke thru captain brittain force field and killed him because shields are nothing to him. Fury have the power to kill any super being thats what he was created to do and he could easily crack thru the thin force field that superman has over his body and kill him.
Captain Britain is far weaker in strength and durability to Superman. You're kidding yourself. Please.
This isn't Fury vs. Superman. This is Superman vs. Cannonball. Fury had the strength to break Cannonball's field. So can Superman.