Wolverine vs The Thing

Originally posted by masterbruce
means he'll push himself harder in a fight...means that even if Logan cuts him painfully, he'll keep on

bigger heart means a lot in a fight...that's how underdogs win, cuz they have more heart. And Ben has the most heart.

your talkign a bout a man who has sustained him self be will power a lone.

Logans determination is equal if not beyond ben.

if Logan stabbs been mortally no amount of determination is going to allow ben to win

so tonystark you gun na rpove your bullshit or not?

I mean you have yet to prove that ben has gotten an agility up grade or an endurence upgrade or a fighting skill upgrade since enemy of the state.

also when are you gunna stop wussing out and verse me in the battlezone

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Yeeeeaaaahhhhh no knowledge at all about Ben.

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yes he correct.

oh by the way Logan trains with the most advance tech on the planet.

you know shiar tech which is so advance that they can make any simulation they want.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

your talkign a bout a man who has sustained him self be will power a lone.

logan sustained himself with his healing factor, not willpower.

Originally posted by masterbruce
logan sustained himself with his healing factor, not willpower.

No I mean will power.

His healing factor had failed me and he was sustaining him self on will power alone he done it on at least two occassions if not more.

thing has not a single determination feat that surpasses Logan nor would it matter in a fight vs Logan

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes he correct.

oh by the way Logan trains with the most advance tech on the planet.

you know shiar tech which is so advance that they can make any simulation they want.

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It's common knowledge that Ben is in a constant mutation in which all of his powers and his actual physical structure are being upgraded every single day to some extent.

And you answered your previous post to this one with your question in this post...(shiar tech) Which of course you can't prove is at a higher lvl than Reeds equipment or me the other way It's just our opinions. Ben does workout with the most advanced equipment on the planet IMO.

And I also would have thought that it would pretty easy to follow the ABC of Ben working out with that equipment and continuing to hone his martial arts and h2h skills over that 2.5 yrs. And with Ben doing those things he would A. Get stronger B. Become more efficient and better at those arts C. Be bigger and badder than in "The Enemy of The State" run.

To me it was a pretty elementary way of thinking to follow. Guess I was wrong.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I know lol .

A Small man, and big, very strong man have a match. The little man is obviously "weaker" in terms of strength etc, and the Big guys is obviously tougher, but slower. Let's say the two guys are comparable in skill. The big man wins this outcome.

So.. What happens when we give the little man a knife? Okay, the big man still might able to take the majority. By blocking the knife with his hand and then throwing it aside. etc

Aaand, then when we add Superhuman healing factor, and lace the small guys bones with adamantium, and instead of wielding a knife, they'll be part of the lil' guy? And on top of that, let's add some superior skill/smarts/agility. Uh, even without the healing factor he'd take the majority. No matter how strong the other guy will be.

It just really takes a good hit to stomach/throat.

7-8/10 for Wolverine.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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It's common knowledge that Ben is in a constant mutation in which all of his powers and his actual physical structure are being upgraded every single day to some extent.

And you answered your previous post to this one with your question in this post...(shiar tech) Which of course you can't prove is at a higher lvl than Reeds equipment or me the other way It's just our opinions. Ben does workout with the most advanced equipment on the planet IMO.

And I also would have thought that it would pretty easy to follow the ABC of Ben working out with that equipment and continuing to hone his martial arts and h2h skills over that 2.5 yrs. And with Ben doing those things he would A. Get stronger B. Become more efficient and better at those arts C. Be bigger and badder than in "The Enemy of The State" run.

To me it was a pretty elementary way of thinking to follow. Guess I was wrong.

again like I said prove it.

all your doing is talking out your ass.

porove that ben has gotten an agility,endurence,durability upgrade since enemy of the state.

Prove that ben has been constantly mutating.

Prove that ben has learn more martial art styles.

Prove this BS comming out of your mouth. We all know yiour full of shit.

can't wait to take this to the battle zone and watch you try and make these same pathetic arguements

also ben workign out does not equate to learning more styles. It means nothing. Working out is simply working out. He hardly ever shown training. He never show studying new styles. All your saying is a load of crap.

Oh and shiar tech was so advance it beyond anytbhing earth has ever come up with.

Logan fights simulations of people that are completely perfect in every way.

Can Ben say the same?

simulation that are so real you can actaully die from them

Originally posted by Jyppe
A Small man, and big, very strong man have a match. The little man is obviously "weaker" in terms of strength etc, and the Big guys is obviously tougher, but slower. Let's say the two guys are comparable in skill. The big man wins this outcome.

So.. What happens when we give the little man a knife? Okay, the big man still might able to take the majority. By blocking the knife with his hand and then throwing it aside. etc

Aaand, then when we add Superhuman healing factor, and lace the small guys bones with adamantium, and instead of wielding a knife, they'll be part of the lil' guy? And on top of that, let's add some superior skill/smarts/agility. Uh, even without the healing factor he'd take the majority. No matter how strong the other guy will be.

It just really takes a good hit to stomach/throat.

7-8/10 for Wolverine.

great post

Originally posted by Battlehammer
great post

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so when are you gunna man up and verse me in the battle zone?

oh and when are you going to provide evidence for the lot of BS you have been saying?

Thing dies...geeezzzzz!

Originally posted by Alfheim
Thing dies...geeezzzzz!

No suposivly according to tonystark over there Thing has gotten upgrade agility,endurence,durability and now knows tons of martial arts styles since enemy of the state.

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Wolverine is SO much faster than Thing... Wolverine wins in one or two stabs.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No suposivly according to tonystark over there Thing has gotten upgrade agility,endurence,durability and now knows tons of martial arts styles since enemy of the state.

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Please Battlethimble don't put words in my mouth... I didn't say that he knows "TONS" of different styles.

He is although a master of at the very least these specific types of fighting styles that I'm aware of... Roman greco wrestling, Jujitsu, Judo, U.S. Special forces H2H combat. And after that I'm unsure.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, if someone one was to continually practice those or anything else for that matter on a regular basis they would continually get better at it until they hit the top of that said practice per that beings physical limitations or athletic capabilities.

And with Ben Grimm pre-THING being an athlete of potentially a NFL player (that whole cosmic rays thing kind of side tracked him from pursuing it any further FTR) His ceiling for these arts and or skills is truly quite high.

And If you truly think that Wolverine is smarter than Ben then your Battlethimbleness is clearly clouding you and your brain synopsises aren't working properly (which was always kinda the thought anyway i guess 😄 )

You forget or just choose to ignore that not only is Ben potentially the best pilot on the planet of either conventional or alien crafts, he is also a trained astronaut too. And as far as I know you can't exactly be dim witted to be able to do either of those things. Logan's out of his league compared to Ben with the smarts. Just because Ben talks in a East coast (Tony Soprano) like manner and that his hide is made out of organic rocks doesn't mean he's as dumb as one or the other.

And here is info about his continued mutations which again I might add is common knowledge amongst most comic geeks.

From the Marveldatabase site.

Thing (Ben Grimm) - 100 tons (Increased from 5 tons to 85 tons and then up to 100 tons over the years as a result of a combination of further mutation and intense weight training)

So, when are you two gonna battlezone it up?

Originally posted by Soljer
So, when are you two gonna battlezone it up?

cosigned. I'd love to see this match.

Why is this fight still going on. Wolverine would destroy ben. The only thing ben have on wolverine is strength but that doesnt help against someone who can A). Dodge almost any attack that ben throws at him B). Can take almost any punch that ben throws at him

This is a stupid fight because wolverine have proven that he can cut ben, damn, even pre adamantium wolverine ripped ben face off and took his punches and bounced back up.

First wolverine toys with him and then stab his claws through ben head.

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I wish someone could explain how Wolverine using his speed will get in enough shots to knock him out. His upgraded healing factor has improved it, seeing as I don't remember him taking those shots before it, well not as much. So the bonk on the head doesn't matter anymore.

Anyway Wolverine only has to give afew shots maybe even one and hes down.