Wolverine vs The Thing

Originally posted by TheKahn
I'm sorry but that doesn't quite explain it for me. The reason a human being can punch through concrete and not a human body is quite simple. While concrete has a great deal of compressive and tensile strength, it is also a relatively brittle substance and thus has a very small modulus of elasticity. Also the concrete martial artists punch through is relatively thin. On the other hand, the soft tissues of the human body are much more flexible and elastic. Thus the soft tissues will deform upon impact and dissipate the kinetic energy of an attack where a concrete block will not. Incidental, this is why you do not want to be in a masonry building during an earthquake.

Now the soft tissues can dissipate a good deal of energy, however what we are talking about here far exceeds its limits. Imagine you are holding a stick of dynamite in your hand. Now one stick won't even scratch a mountain, but it is more than enough to easily flay a human body (as someone mentioned just look at the horrific results of small bombs on human beings on the news to get an idea). Now multiply that one stick of dynamite by a hundred or thousand fold and you start to get to the level of Cyke's optic blast. Now you can see why I just can't see how Wolverine's body could ever take a full powered blast given his powerset.

i just read the other posts and im convinced the thing wins most of the time.

Originally posted by CM-Shazam
i just read the other posts and im convinced the thing wins most of the time.

Originally posted by capt it up
bomb are heat explosion is heat. scots blast has no heat at all.
also f u took a base ball bat to a metal wall u would dent the wall yet if u hit a person with that same abck the skinn would bruise, but it would not dent.
wolverine is also more durbale then a normal humans body and also if u add that his body is always healing it is quiet possable his body would be fine since his body through sheer fact of helaing could stretch his skinn to inhuman degree.

Firstly, when a bomb or other explosive device goes off a good deal of debris is scattered in multiple directions and there is usually a sizable creator. The reason for this is that there is a release of concussive energy along with the heat at the time of detonation. You are mistaken when you say that the only component of an explosion is heat.

Again explosive concussive energy is quite different from simple blunt force trauma. For example if you were to step on a land mind your injuries would include far more than burns or bruises. The flesh would be torn from your foot and leg (at the very least) soon to be followed by fragments of bone.

As for your contention that Wolverine's healing factor would somehow prevent Cyke's optic blast from having a similar effect on his body as our land mind example did on our hapless victim, I just can not see how that would be possible. That would mean that his healing factor could completely heal the damage from the explosion in the fraction of a second that the explosion is taking place. While Wolverine's healing factor is impressive, I do not think it can be extrapolated to be that powerful.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Firstly, when a bomb or other explosive device goes off a good deal of debris is scattered in multiple directions and there is usually a sizable creator. The reason for this is that there is a release of concussive energy along with the heat at the time of detonation. You are mistaken when you say that the only component of an explosion is heat.

Again explosive concussive energy is quite different from simple blunt force trauma. For example if you were to step on a land mind your injuries would include far more than burns or bruises. The flesh would be torn from your foot and leg (at the very least) soon to be followed by fragments of bone.

As for your contention that Wolverine's healing factor would somehow prevent Cyke's optic blast from having a similar effect on his body as our land mind example did on our hapless victim, I just can not see how that would be possible. That would mean that his healing factor could completely heal the damage from the explosion in the fraction of a second that the explosion is taking place. While Wolverine's healing factor is impressive, I do not think it can be extrapolated to be that powerful.

Originally posted by badabing
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/9238/durabilityadamantium4fe.jpg
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4900128
Hmmm

Where is the second pic from? Strangely you never want to answer this question.

Irrelevant anyway, sice Wolverine obviously can cut Thing, and has twice.

the thing is stronger and more durable. i saw two pictures of the thing beating wolvrine. the thing could crush wolverin in 1 hand.

Originally posted by CM-Shazam
the thing is stronger and more durable. i saw two pictures of the thing beating wolvrine. the thing could crush wolverin in 1 hand.

the other pic is not 616 wolverine so it unusbale and were not even sure if it is even a real pic or a fake.

yet on this thread we have posted a clear win for wolverine and another time were wolevrine cut haft of thing face aways.

also strength emans nuthing when ur oppnet can take ur best shot and keep fighting and who ur oppnet can killl u with one well placed stabb.
also wolverine the superior fighter and agility and reflex are far things superior.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And yet, I've never seen him pierce Colossus.

"organic steel - - super strong, but no match for pure adamantium claws."

What Chris says is pretty much how it goes.

Wolverine can NOT beat Thing or cut him.

Whatever writer had him doing it just did bad writing....

If 2 giant bolders being swung and sandwhiching his head can't faze him(as seen in FF #533) can't faze him Wolverine's claws shouldn't....

Originally posted by capt it up
scots blast has no explossion. optice blast does nto work the same way as an explsion ti work like a punch then an explosion sicne it ahs no heat.
hulk punches do not ripp wolverine skinn of so why would scots blasts also it been shown that scots blast do nopt ripp wolverine skinn so i reay doln't see ur piont.?

Perhaps you could have stated that you didn't understand the point I was making before you decided to make a series of, mostly incorrect, statements in an attempt to repudiate it.

Again, my argument is that is does not make sense, to me, that while Cyke's optic blast is strong enough punch a hole though a mountain it cannot, for some unknown reason, seem to rip though Wolverine's flesh (as it has done to Mr. Sinister and the Blob) when the concussive force of small explosives can easily do the same to a human body. Nothing in Wolverine's power set justifies or explains this ability.

Originally posted by Kool-Aid
Wolverine can NOT beat Thing or cut him.

Whatever writer had him doing it just did bad writing....

If 2 giant bolders being swung and sandwhiching his head can't faze him(as seen in FF #533) can't faze him Wolverine's claws shouldn't....

wolverine cuts through solid steel like it was butter.

so saying all that is bad writing is just beeing plain ignorent

Originally posted by Grimm22
I would pretty much like to see Wolveirne try to pierce Ben's skull.

wolevrine is just not as tough as you guys think bad writing doesn't mean he can beat everyone

Originally posted by TheKahn
Perhaps you could have stated that you didn't understand the point I was making before you decided to make a series of, mostly incorrect, statements in an attempt to repudiate it.

Again, my argument is that is does not make sense, to me, that while Cyke's optic blast is strong enough punch a hole though a mountain it cannot, for some unknown reason, seem to rip though Wolverine's flesh (as it has done to Mr. Sinister and the Blob) when the concussive force of small explosives can easily do the same to a human body. Nothing in Wolverine's power set justifies or explains this ability.

wolverine durability is naterualy more durable then a normal humans and since when skinnis hit it desplaces as much energy as it can and if over load it tears, but since wolverine body naterualy hardser to hurt his skinn would not tear as easiliy, plus if u add the healinfactor it it make it even harder for a blunt attack to tear wolverines skinn.

Originally posted by CM-Shazam
wolevrine is just not as tough as you guys think bad writing doesn't mean he can beat everyone

Originally posted by riceroost
More biased goodness from you.

Wolverine being in a berserker rage had nothing to do with him hurting Ben. If you are trying to say the Rage gave him the extra strength to cut Ben you are wrong because Wolverine was on his back using pure arm strength to cut Ben. He had no leverage, lower body, or upper body power in the slash. All arm. Wolverine also wasn't in a rage when he impaled Ben through the shoulder in Enemy of the State.

Ben didn't ***** slap Wolverine. He hit him just about as hard as Thing can hit. Ben was PISSED and in PAIN. You don't ***** slap people in that state. You attempt to kill them. Which is just what Thing did.

And the only reason Thing hit Wolverine was because Wolverine stopped fighting, in complete shock over what he had done in anger. Ben is his friend after all. He tried to apologize. Pretty much let Ben hit him.

Wolverine did not "scratch" Thing's face. He ripped half his face off. It was so badly disfigured he wore a MASK and they wouldn't show his face until a while later. Even then Thing freaked out without the mask on. You dont freak out over a scratch.

Biased goodness 🤨

Your going to call me bias when its pretty obvious that you are being even more of a fanboy than I am

Um, yeah if he hit Wolverine as hard as he could I gurrantee that Wolverine wouldnt even be in New York anymore.

Also, he back handed him. How is that not a bitc* slap 🤨

what excuses i read this this whole thread and you guys only have one time about wolverine beating thing i saw sevral pics of thing beating down wolvrine

Originally posted by TheKahn
Nothing in Wolverine's power set justifies or explains this ability.

Originally posted by riceroost
He ripped off half his face. He completely impaled through his shoulder. What makes you think he couldn't pierce his skull?

It wasnt half of his face. More like a cheek.

Also, the impaling of the shoulder was just bad writing by Mark Millar (as much as I love him, he does tend to write crap).

What makes you think that Wolverine is strong enough to impale his skull?!?