Spiderman or Manspider? (Dedicated 2 Mr Parker)

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Logically, people wouldn't stick to walls and tiny 4 oz. bottles of web fluid wouldn't shoot a zillion feet.

And his brilliance is shown with him understanding all the talk on fusion and stuff and the accomplished scientists knowing about the young up-n-comer.

Thanks for proving to me like all the apologists do for the shortcomings and failures of these films what an idiot Raimi sounds like when he made his speech for why he was going to include organics in the movie.His absurd and laughable reasoning for not including the mechs in the film was he says that the general audience would have a hard time relating to a kid who could create a chemical that no 3M multi corporation company could ever create? what the hell,when was spiderman ever about realism? this is about a guy who walks on walls and sticks to them and has superhuman strength because of a spiderbite and thats suppose to be believable? give me a break,if anything,thats just as much unbelievable as a teenage kid creating a fluid no scientists have created.To Raimi's stupid reasoning BACK TO THE FUTURE should never have been made because that movie is not realistic either. 🙄 the only reason the mechs were not included in the film like they should have been for a true spidey fan is because it was just sheer laziness on Raimi's part so he came up with the lame ass lie of his for the reasoning of the organics.

okay I did not dismiss you from class earlier so I can see why you are still here posting so I will do it in a minute.Remember organics=man-spider, chemical webbing=spiderman.This version of sonys butchered to death his character,the movie is a fraud. You learned something today.you can leave now.

class dismissed. 😄

Uhh... do you even know what you're talking about anymore? You wanted Spiderman shown as more of an average person but you want him running around created insanely complex web shooting devices and thinking about the mechanics of electromagnetics and how they apply to his wall crawling?

You're just too overly critical.

Originally posted by WindDancer
Mr. Parker and I have had discussions about this and I agree with him. Man-Spider only applies to Sony's Spiderman. The original Spiderman from marvel is a scientist who builds and creates his own webbing. His superpowers came after the fact he was bitten by a radio active spider. Thus, the title is more fitting in the comics as Spiderman. But the version from Sony does no justice to the character. He is fully mutated (which I won't go on with this because is a whole different topic) and shoots his webbing from his organic body. That makes him a mutant. Whereas the Comic Book version clearly explained he was not a mutant when Spidey transformed himself into the Man-Spider saga in which he grows 4 arms.

Just recently Mr Parker and I discuss the issue of Batman. A friend of my was introduced into our logic of Man-Spider. But he rejected that logic by making the statement that the same can be said about Batman. Meaning that it would be more logical to call him Man-Bat. But this is where his logic fails. Batman has no superpowers nor did he became a bat. However! Batman has an adversary known as Man-Bat. This Man-Bat has the similar case as Spiderman. Man-Bat is illogical for Batman (Bruce Wayne) because there is no organic change from a man to an animal nor there is a mutation. Bruce chose the symbol of the bat (for discussion purposes we will use the word "chose" in this case. This could be argued later in another thread) to strike fear into the hearts of criminals. Within time he became a myth, a legend, and finally a reality for the crime world in Gotham.

With Superman is a totally and different case. Superman was not born a man first and then gain powers. He was born with his super powers at child birth. Thus "Man-Super" does not apply. Is a bit tricky with these names.

Examples Captain America was not really a Captain he was a private.

Mr Fantastic was not really fantastic he was first Scientist Reed Richards and then became Mr Fantastic by accident.

A clear example is Thor. Much like Superman Thor was born with his powers and then he created his secret identity. You can't call him Man-Thor because is ludicrous and the same with Superman.

Superman was not born with his powers...he was borna normal krypton baby when he was sent to earth the confinement and earths bering 1000 years before the krypton planet made him so he had all his powers.
And I dont even like Superman.

Originally posted by 28Dave37
Superman was not born with his powers...he was borna normal krypton baby when he was sent to earth the confinement and earths bering 1000 years before the krypton planet made him so he had all his powers.
And I dont even like Superman.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Actually, he was born with his powers per se. He just had to be under a yellow sun for them to work.

How deep underwater? Unless it was pretty far down the sunlight would still come through.
http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/ocng_textbook/chapter06/chapter06_10.htm

Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
How deep underwater? Unless it was pretty far down the sunlight would still come through.
http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/ocng_textbook/chapter06/chapter06_10.htm

Then you're right, supes shouldn't have powers down there.

He's like a battery. He doesn't immediately lose his powers but he will run out of energy if he's out of the sun's rays for too long.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
He's like a battery. He doesn't immediately lose his powers but he will run out of energy if he's out of the sun's rays for too long.

You can't count cartoons as canon.

Why not???

ha! a spider getting bitten by a radioactive man

to the tune of the theme tune from the first spider-man cartoon

Man-spider, Man-spider,
does whatever a man can do,
sits on his arse,
watching TV,
man-spider is a man to be.
Watch out! here comes the man spider.

thats what the theme in the manspider movie should have been,instead they were stupid enough to included the 60's cartoon theme at the end of the first manspider movie despite the fact he wasnt even bitten by a radioactive spider in the movie.There is so many things wrong with that movie such as that screwup,the movie is a joke.

Both movies Cash total is well over $300 Million dollars. Wow, What a screw up.

First Mr. Parker Your kool Spidey sense Sig should be your Avatar. Ok second The Movie shoulda been called Mary Jane, becuase Spidey would let the world die first and also what ever he does in the movie is based off Mary Jane.

Totally agree with mr parker. By the stupid excuse by Sam Raimi and sony that a kid creating a web fluid would be too unbelievle in a superhero movie , any fantasy movie could be done. Back to the future, a guy creating a time machine in a delorian, gosthbusters, three guys hunting spectres with laser rays, etc, never could be done. What a pathetic excuse.

Originally posted by Robo-Chocobo
Both movies Cash total is well over $300 Million dollars. Wow, What a screw up.

From a financial standpoint the movies were not a screwup,sony got what they wanted out of the movies,money which is all they cared about.They knew that spiderman was such an extremely popular character that no matter how god awful the scripts were for these movies,the movie would be a smash hit because of how movie goers had been waiting for ages for a spiderman movie to finally be made.From a financial point on making money which is all they were interested in,it wasnt a screwup,as far as a good quality spidey film being made,it was a screwup.The movies were nothing at all like the comicbooks.Thank god the comicbooks are nothing at all like these movies.The 90's cartoon show is by far much more of a superiour product on screen than these horrible manspider movies are.

[QUOTE=4239852]Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
[B]First Mr. Parker Your kool Spidey sense Sig should be your Avatar.

Believe me,I wish it was my avatar but I cant find anybody here that knows how to put it on for me.They say the size of it is too large for an avatar which is really weird especially since yours is bigger. 😕
btw,I really love your sig as well.thats too cool. 🙂

Try right clicking it, then go to properties, and copy the adress, then try putting it up again. Good thing I got my big sinature up when I did because if I try to change anything on my profile and click update, It says My sig is to big, so I just leave it...And yes the 90s Spidey was the best.