Lightsaber versus Claws: Maul v Wolverine

Originally posted by Se7in
Adamantium is inderstructible to any measures humans have countered yet. But this is Star Wars, in which humans can control lengths of light. For all we known, there could be a hundred things in the SW universe that can cut through adamantium, we don't know, but I would put money on a ligthsaber. But even if it can't, it doesn't matter, Wolverine's claws are made of bone.

The hulk has punched adamantium and it has not bent. You are not going to convince me or any other comic book fan that anything in the SW universe can withstand a direct punch from the hulk.

And as far as his claws being bone, we have to match up the best wolverine against the best maul. If we are just using how they are in the present, then wolvie will most likely win, since Maul is cut in half and um...DEAD.

¿¿¿I thought these kind of threads weren't allowed???

Not that I care or anything..

Maul would get wolverine while he was running at him. Then he would slice him up.

Originally posted by turboman1691
The hulk has punched adamantium and it has not bent. You are not going to convince me or any other comic book fan that anything in the SW universe can withstand a direct punch from the hulk.

And as far as his claws being bone, we have to match up the best wolverine against the best maul. If we are just using how they are in the present, then wolvie will most likely win, since Maul is cut in half and um...DEAD.

Come on, I'd wager that Marka Ragnos could beat the Hulk in fisticuffs!

grevious's metal feet are very strong and Obi withstood that

Originally posted by turboman1691
The hulk has punched adamantium and it has not bent. You are not going to convince me or any other comic book fan that anything in the SW universe can withstand a direct punch from the hulk.

And as far as his claws being bone, we have to match up the best wolverine against the best maul. If we are just using how they are in the present, then wolvie will most likely win, since Maul is cut in half and um...DEAD.

Pay attention. And consider reading my post as shown below. You might -learn- something.

"One, there is no specifications on Wolverine's abilities. This is important because in about '93 he had the adamantium twisted and pulled out of his body quite painfully by Magneto. He survived, but he was mentally scarred, and left the X-Men for a time. His claws still exist, but they are bone. They are quite strong, don't get me wrong. But a lightsaber would cleave him in pieces. And despite what most comic fanboys think, Wolverine's healing powers aren't on par with Deadpool's, and he could be rendered completely immobile and helpless with a well-placed strike (Or just use the Force to control his own hands and make him pin himself to a wall)

Two, everyone rants and raves that adamantium can't be destroyed, but apparently it can be pulled out and twisted by Magneto with relatively no problem. Granted, Magneto's power is immense, but if he can bend the metal to his will, it is malleable. And thus it can be bent, if not outright destroyed. Now, a lightsaber burns hot enough to get through space age blast doors. All metal is simply liquid moving very slowly at room temperature. Under such hot extremes, even Wolverine's adamantium would distort and melt. He could literally be undone with a few well placed blows, and considering how easily Maul could keep Wolverine immobile (Remember, Magneto could will Wolverine to a stop easily. A Sith Lord, even one as relatively minor as Maul, could do something similar, or arrange for Wolverine to be still enough to do damage). Point being, if average human beings (read: the scientists who created Weapon X) can control and manipulate the metal, and it can be turned into liquid form and can be grafted to his skeleton, it can also be forceably removed or even like I said, distorted by the raw heat of the lightsaber. All you people saying "adamantium is INDESTRUCTIBLE" are seriously brainslow and need to go back to science class and pay attention. Nothing is indestructible, save for the very smallest parts of an atom perhaps. Things are only hard and solid in comparison to other objects at a given temperature. If you have a weapon that is like a piece of the sun, shoving it anywhere near or in the body of someone who has plated metal on their skeletal system (Which in itself is ultimate bullshit for you right there) that stuff is going to come unglued.

The end result is Wolverine getting schooled by a Sith lord with power of the Force, and the ability to rend his body, piece by piece, and distort his skeletal shell to the point where Wolverine, should he survive, would be wishing he hadn't."

Very good

wow and BTW everything can be destroyed including the smallest part of a atom i believe

You're refering to fission and fusion. Things can't be destroyed; they can be divided.

yea im not god with detail

if all else fails maul could friken use mind fisure and blow him up or melt the metal it wouldnt be destroyed cut or watever but it would be melted

this is almost as ridiculous as my arguement with golem(insert numbers) about how a saber would slice through Juggernaut.

But way to go Janus

That's the issue with lightsabers versus adamantium. Adamantium is unbreakable by comic book standards, and comic books have people flying around and lifting immense weight, and overall not being realistic.

All arguments here will always degenerate into "Lightsabers can cut through adamantium."

"No it can't, adamantium is unbreakable! And resists melting!"
"Yes it can"
"No it can't"
"Yes!"
"No!"

If it resists melting, how the hell did they ever get it to conform to his skeleton? Or is that another stupor power?

From what I know about it when it forms it is a liquid and will stay a liquid until it cools. Keeping it in a heated tank and then pumping it into someone and then letting it cool. I wonder why you can't re-melt it though.

If it has a melting point, it can be melted. And since a lightsaber burns hot enough to open blaster doors, it can definately cause damage to a metal skeleton.

I say Maul sweet talks Wolverine into killing himself. 😛

Originally posted by Lord Janus
Pay attention. And consider reading my post as shown below. You might -learn- something.

"One, there is no specifications on Wolverine's abilities. This is important because in about '93 he had the adamantium twisted and pulled out of his body quite painfully by Magneto. He survived, but he was mentally scarred, and left the X-Men for a time. His claws still exist, but they are bone. They are quite strong, don't get me wrong. But a lightsaber would cleave him in pieces. And despite what most comic fanboys think, Wolverine's healing powers aren't on par with Deadpool's, and he could be rendered completely immobile and helpless with a well-placed strike (Or just use the Force to control his own hands and make him pin himself to a wall)

Two, everyone rants and raves that adamantium can't be destroyed, but apparently it can be pulled out and twisted by Magneto with relatively no problem. Granted, Magneto's power is immense, but if he can bend the metal to his will, it is malleable. And thus it can be bent, if not outright destroyed. Now, a lightsaber burns hot enough to get through space age blast doors. All metal is simply liquid moving very slowly at room temperature. Under such hot extremes, even Wolverine's adamantium would distort and melt. He could literally be undone with a few well placed blows, and considering how easily Maul could keep Wolverine immobile (Remember, Magneto could will Wolverine to a stop easily. A Sith Lord, even one as relatively minor as Maul, could do something similar, or arrange for Wolverine to be still enough to do damage). Point being, if average human beings (read: the scientists who created Weapon X) can control and manipulate the metal, and it can be turned into liquid form and can be grafted to his skeleton, it can also be forceably removed or even like I said, distorted by the raw heat of the lightsaber. All you people saying "adamantium is INDESTRUCTIBLE" are seriously brainslow and need to go back to science class and pay attention. Nothing is indestructible, save for the very smallest parts of an atom perhaps. Things are only hard and solid in comparison to other objects at a given temperature. If you have a weapon that is like a piece of the sun, shoving it anywhere near or in the body of someone who has plated metal on their skeletal system (Which in itself is ultimate bullshit for you right there) that stuff is going to come unglued.

The end result is Wolverine getting schooled by a Sith lord with power of the Force, and the ability to rend his body, piece by piece, and distort his skeletal shell to the point where Wolverine, should he survive, would be wishing he hadn't."

There is only one being capable of manipulating adamantium and that is Magneto, and that is because his power gives him complete control over all metal and adamantium is a metal. Mags innately has dominion over all metal, even ones that are otherwise indestrucible. But Mags aside, no other character is destroying adamantium. (well maybe molecule rearrangers like nate grey, but hey those guys are like gods).

and as for griveous kicking obi wan...does someone really want to argue that a kick from that robot is as powerful as a punch from the hulk??

Originally posted by Darth L. Dipsit
Lightsaber's energy: it is mass accelerated to 3.0 x 10^8 m/s. The only thing it cannot cut is another sample of pure energy (blaster bolts, lightsaber beams, etc.) I don't think Wolverine would stand a chance

The properties of light energy negate the possibility that adamantium can escape a laser unharmed. Due to the kinetic energy of the photons in the lightsaber, they will smash into the adamantium on a submolecular energetic level in terms of polar waves. These, as they are moving so fast, will eventually cause the adamantium particles to accelerate as well (if a marble is hit by another marble, it accelerates - the same is true for any type of molecule or atom), thus causing heat, which will lead to the adamantium changing state. It is the properties of matter and energy that negate the possibility of Wolverine's resistance to photonic/massive heat energy on an electromagnetic level (massive in the sense that the photons can interact with mass, not that the impact is huge or the colloquial "massive"😉. In terms of metals these are fairly secure and patent accepted truths.

Come on everybody, Maul strips wolverine's flesh off, the lightsaber wouldn't go through the adamantium directly but who cares? Wolverine can't recover from everything, stick this lightsaber through his organs and finish it, i'd say.
It would be unlikely Wolverine would get a shot at Maul as Maul's reflexes are much better.