the thing is fighting without the mother box almost ensures his victory, cuz his berserker rage is practically unparallaled in the DCU maybe a LOBO or Doomsday can come close but the mother box is what keeps that in check so hulk could yelp "hulk smash" all he wants to he's going down. why? cuz orion isnt one of those guys who stand there and quip with his enemies. the way spidey cracks jokes or beast qoute shakespeare and philosophers, and Doc smapson who tries to talk him down, Orion maims and kills at will with his bare hands. and still he has the A-force to back him up.
we all know that it is the opposite to the Omega Force, and not even superman can withstand a blast from either without wincing in pain, so hulk would put up a good fight, but he's toast
Originally posted by manjaro
the thing is fighting without the mother box almost ensures his victory, cuz his berserker rage is practically unparallaled in the DCU maybe a LOBO or Doomsday can come close but the mother box is what keeps that in check so hulk could yelp "hulk smash" all he wants to he's going down. why? cuz orion isnt one of those guys who stand there and quip with his enemies. the way spidey cracks jokes or beast qoute shakespeare and philosophers, and Doc smapson who tries to talk him down, Orion maims and kills at will with his bare hands. and still he has the A-force to back him up.we all know that it is the opposite to the Omega Force, and not even superman can withstand a blast from either without wincing in pain, so hulk would put up a good fight, but he's toast
Orion's rage is nothing compared to the Hulk's. When Orion gets mad, he doesn't get stronger. In comparison, Orion would be an angry two year old.
Hulk has taken hits from guns designed to bring down Celestials. He isn't Superman. Omega Effect or Astro force, nothin' doing.
Orion getting angry and going blow for blow with the Hulk is the stupidest thing he could possibly do.
Orion getting mad and Hulk getting mad are two very different things. Orion gets mad, he fights harder. Hulk gets mad, he gets stronger, he gets more durable, he gets faster, and he heals faster. See where this is going?
Without some way to calm Hulk down, or otherwise de-power him, Orion is screwed. He doesn’t have the advantages Superman has. That’s why he needs the Mother Box to win this.
so exactly what the mother box is gonna do? the mother box is touted as the universes ultimate calcuator/computer, it heals ppl and it provides a link to the source. Orion doesnt need it to operate the harness, cuz the astro force comes from within him. yes the box can channel energy directly from the source to the harness but thats completely different from the astro force.
orion can heal just fine on his own and he's hella durable. someone please tell me how in the name of jeezus how the hulk can stand up to a force that can destroy city sized star ships, and rip holes thru planets
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Orion's rage is nothing compared to the Hulk's. When Orion gets mad, he doesn't get stronger. In comparison, Orion would be an angry two year old.Hulk has taken hits from guns designed to bring down Celestials. He isn't Superman. Omega Effect or Astro force, nothin' doing.
Orion getting angry and going blow for blow with the Hulk is the stupidest thing he could possibly do.
Who's stronger and more durable at their full potential? Orion's unchecked power? Or Hulk's unbridled strength of a fully angered Hulk? I think Orion stands a better chance by removing the mother box, letting loose his full potential, so Orion can keep up with the Hulk.
Hulk's greatest feat of strength: Moving an inertial mass greater than that on a neutron star. A neutron star has an inertial mass far greater than that of a solar system.
Strength wise, Hulk punks Orion. Battle wise, Orion's got a good chance, but if he fails to calm Hulk down, the battle will shift into Hulk's favor. I believe Orion's unchecked strength, but if he goes toe to toe against the Savage Hulk, he will fall. Give him a good fight, but he will fall.
Originally posted by manjaro
so exactly what the mother box is gonna do? the mother box is touted as the universes ultimate calcuator/computer, it heals ppl and it provides a link to the source. Orion doesnt need it to operate the harness, cuz the astro force comes from within him. yes the box can channel energy directly from the source to the harness but thats completely different from the astro force.orion can heal just fine on his own and he's hella durable. someone please tell me how in the name of jeezus how the hulk can stand up to a force that can destroy city sized star ships, and rip holes thru planets
Check the first page. Hulk can withstand a blast that would devestate a planet. He's just that durable.
The Mother Box could find Hulk's weaknesses. Gamma ray absorption, sleeping gas, and calm.
ah ha.....Weakness found:
Endurance/Stamina: Orion's stamina is legendary. Only on Apokolips or New Genesis, are there any beings with the ability to compete with Orion in a conflict of any nature. Bolstered by his rage and his mother box, Orion is a virtually inexhaustible engine of destruction.
<<<This does not mean that Orion does not tire. In battles against foes of near equal might, such as Kalibak or Darkseid, Orion has been seen to fatigue, only after hours of continuous combat>>>.
The scale at which these beings operate is well above what we have come to expect from terrestrial metahumans.
So Orion do still tire. Hulk's does not tire much. He has more stamina. Lets do a analysis. Orion uncheck strength could make go toe to with hulk in the 1st part of fight. Seeing the challange being given Hulk might get mad and stronger but eventually Orion get tired and might lose. Just an analysis.
Orion can fight for days, but he does tire. Anyone who fights Hulk for a few days is going to lose.
I don't see Orion fighting Hulk for days, more like a few hours until he forces Hulk to revert back to banner. If Orion wins, which he would, he'd have to do it in the first 4 or 5 hours, which is how any win over Hulk would go.
Originally posted by joesha28
Astroforce i do not know if it can hurt Hulk much. It might not give the fear to hulk. Hulk might overcome thing that he does not fear and he rarely fears. Mjolnir in Thor's hands was one if not the only thing Hulk confessed he fears.
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't.
lol He did? When?
Originally posted by long pig
Hulk should be afraid of Thor's hammer. Has Thor ever let loose a full OdinForce on Hulk? It seems like he usually holds back on Hulk to me.
With Mjolnir, he does. Physically, he always strains himself. I don't think Hulk wants to get hit by a full Odinforce Blast. That would even damage Galactus.
Originally posted by long pig
Orion can fight for days, but he does tire. Anyone who fights Hulk for a few days is going to lose.I don't see Orion fighting Hulk for days, more like a few hours until he forces Hulk to revert back to banner. If Orion wins, which he would, he'd have to do it in the first 4 or 5 hours, which is how any win over Hulk would go.
Via the Mother Box. 😉
If Orion plays it smart, he wins.