Originally posted by Fishy
Nothing is known about Zhar and Dorak, and that was just a part of the council there were still others around and more masters... Barely a hundred survived after Revan left, lets say 70 of them lived at the time Nihilus ate that planet at most. Only about 10 survived that at most, probably only four. Still meaning that Nihilus ate anywhere between 60 and 66 people, at least at once.That would take a bit more then 2 hands, it would take 23 and I doubt anybody could do that easily.
You are right the Exile gets a shit load of connections fast, but some of those are for leearning things others are for other people learning things.
And again Emperor there is nothing to suggest that Nihilus couldn't move... Nothing.
Little adjustment in the post
Between 60 and 66 Jedi, some of them were masters...
And far more important if you ask me a lot of other force users there too... Lots and lots of them an entire planet filled with them.
Originally posted by Fishy
Nothing is known about Zhar and Dorak, and that was just a part of the council there were still others around and more masters... Barely a hundred survived after Revan left, lets say 70 of them lived at the time Nihilus ate that planet at most. Only about 10 survived that at most, probably only four. Still meaning that Nihilus ate anywhere between 60 and 66 people, at least at once.That would take a bit more then 2 hands, it would take 23 and I doubt anybody could do that easily.
You are right the Exile gets a shit load of connections fast, but some of those are for leearning things others are for other people learning things.
And again Emperor there is nothing to suggest that Nihilus couldn't move... Nothing.
1. You forget that quite a few Jedi exiled themselves after the war, and others simply went into hiding. Not all of the Jedi were there.
And there is nothing to suggest that he can move.
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
1. You forget that quite a few Jedi exiled themselves after the war, and others simply went into hiding. Not all of the Jedi were there.And there is nothing to suggest that he can move.
Not one Jedi exiled him/herself or was sentenced to such a thing according to the Jedi Council. Not until after Nihilus. At least according to the Jedi council, and I think they would know.
Nothing?
How about this little thing
Jedi went to face him and nothing was left of them but a wound in the force. And don't give me that crap that he was starting to eat them before they arrived on the bridge because he sure as hell didn't when you and Visas and Mandalore arrived. If it took a lot of time or if he couldn't move he would have been dead.
Well I was going off of what Atton said, in either case not all the Jedi would be there since either before or after, that's plenty of Jedi left that Nihilus and his Sith Assassins didn't kill.
I find it extremely unlikely that Jedi were able to board his ship and make it all the way to the bridge on their own. Where would they even know where to look?
Immortal? Hardly. Those Jedi wouldn't have a tenth of Lord Revan's power most likely. I still don't think they ever reached his bridge, maybe he was just on a planet and they found him, heck I don't even remember hearing about it from the masters. Nihilus did it to Kreia, but also needed Sion's help and she didn't die. He didn't do it on the Exile either, and there's no proof to my knowledge that HIS connection to the Force is gone. I like the theory but they specifically say many times during the game that he has reestablished HIS connection, it was because of the others but he doesn't need them anymore.
Even if it was true, if the Force is passing through others from thousands of miles away and the Exile can use it, Nihilus should be able to drain it. Revan is stronger than both the Exile and Traya and Traya couldn't resist Malachor V while Revan could. Not to mention Revan has tons of Sith knowledge and is a brilliant tactician while Nihilus is stupid and has a primitive mind and never moves in the one instance we saw him use his power.
I really think Kreia allowed it all to happen because she could sense that she would meet the Exile and she wanted to destroy the Force through him.
Originally posted by Fishy
Jedi went to face him and nothing was left of them but a wound in the force. And don't give me that crap that he was starting to eat them before they arrived on the bridge because he sure as hell didn't when you and Visas and Mandalore arrived. If it took a lot of time or if he couldn't move he would have been dead.
He could also have defeated them in "normal" lightsaber combat and eatem them after it. He could have captured them with all his Sith Assasins / Dark Jedi.
Still there is the possibility he threw dozens of people at them and used the time they needed to fight through that people to use his special ability on them.
We never saw him use it in a real combat situation meaning while he was fighting. And I doubt that this ability doesn't need any concentration.
I think Revan would win simply because like Emperor Revan said Nihilus is a RETARD and also Revan was a excellent saber dualist and even if Revan gets his force powers drained by Nihilus' 'power' then all he has to do is block the lightsaber attacks and resist the force attacks get in close and then kill Nihilus Like the primitive he is!
Basically he gets his @$$ handed to him.
I rest my case 😄
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Immortal? Hardly. Those Jedi wouldn't have a tenth of Lord Revan's power most likely. I still don't think they ever reached his bridge, maybe he was just on a planet and they found him, heck I don't even remember hearing about it from the masters. Nihilus did it to Kreia, but also needed Sion's help and she didn't die. He didn't do it on the Exile either, and there's no proof to my knowledge that HIS connection to the Force is gone. I like the theory but they specifically say many times during the game that he has reestablished HIS connection, it was because of the others but he doesn't need them anymore.Even if it was true, if the Force is passing through others from thousands of miles away and the Exile can use it, Nihilus should be able to drain it. Revan is stronger than both the Exile and Traya and Traya couldn't resist Malachor V while Revan could. Not to mention Revan has tons of Sith knowledge and is a brilliant tactician while Nihilus is stupid and has a primitive mind and never moves in the one instance we saw him use his power.
I really think Kreia allowed it all to happen because she could sense that she would meet the Exile and she wanted to destroy the Force through him.
He didn't need Sion he did everything those two did against Kreia. What did Sion do besides hit a already defeated woman... Nihilus did it all on his own. And he did use that attack fast, he just walked in and then did it. Bam Kreia knocked out. Now I know Revan is a lot more powerful then Kreia, but I very much doubt even he can do a force attack that would knock her out in a second. Maybe Nihilus his attack would be less succesful against Revan but it would still work.
Originally posted by Nai Fohl
He could also have defeated them in "normal" lightsaber combat and eatem them after it. He could have captured them with all his Sith Assasins / Dark Jedi.Still there is the possibility he threw dozens of people at them and used the time they needed to fight through that people to use his special ability on them.
We never saw him use it in a real combat situation meaning while he was fighting. And I doubt that this ability doesn't need any concentration.
Good point... Still he used it against Kreia and it didn't take him long to prepare his attack against her. He just used it.
Nihilus threw her away against a wall taking away most of her energy and her force power. If he would do the same against Revan Revan would also be on the ground almost unable to move. And no he didn't use it on the exile and you already know why he didn't use it on the exile becuase you have read the posts about Nihilus his power too.
Originally posted by Fishy
Nihilus threw her away against a wall taking away most of her energy and her force power. If he would do the same against Revan Revan would also be on the ground almost unable to move. And no he didn't use it on the exile and you already know why he didn't use it on the exile becuase you have read the posts about Nihilus his power too.
Read my post that starts with: Immortal? There's no proof that the Exile can't use the Force by himself and a lot to say that he can.
Originally posted by Fishy
Good point... Still he used it against Kreia and it didn't take him long to prepare his attack against her. He just used it.
He was walking up to Kreia through that entire hallway. Then he stands there for several seconds before he use his ability on Kreia. Still he could have needed 20 or 30 seconds to focus on Kreia before he could use that ability. Not that much time...but still too much when you have to fight. Even if it would only need 5 seconds (the time he stands near Kreia doing nothing) that might still be too much time when somebody like Revan jumps at you and starts kicking your ass with his lightsaber.
Originally posted by Fishy
Like what? What says he can everything points at the otehr thing
Like the game. Many many times it says that he has restored HIS connection to the Force and it never mentions anything like he doesn't have the Force, he just draws it from others. Again, if it's passing through him, Nihilus should be able to drain it. And who is it passing from before he fights Nihilus? Kreia's on the other side of the galaxy and Visas can even die in the battle, meaning he will have nothing to draw from.
And what points towards your theory?