Michael Jackson Trial Discussion

Started by Alpha Centauri62 pages

Child worship, that's what happened.

-AC

correct me if i'm wrong....but didn't he settle on similar allegations in the past?

that's not a guilty act at all. ❌

Apparently he settled, but that doesn't show guilt. After all, I imagine most parents if aware there child had been abused would hardly settle for cash. I would want to stop such a person from doing it again. I just think that sounds odd, but not necessarily guilty.

Tell me something.

If your child had been sexually molested, could any amount of cash shut you up? Answer should be no. Now, what if you were only after the money? It was a silly thing to do in Jackson's position but it's perfectly acceptable to see that he may have done it to get them off his back.

What happened was this:

Jordy's Dad: You monster! You sexually molested my son!
Jackson: No I didn't.
Jordy's Dad: Taking you thought MORE courts then. Or.....give me a few mill and we'll call it quits.

There was no child molestation. Only child exploitation.

-AC

Of course settlement doesn't prove guilt in a court of law...but look at the fundamental principal behind making a settlement.

it's the problem with the court system. You can pay your way out of breaking the law.

Maybe, I think it should have gone to court, but then I can also see how a person could want to avoid such a thing if it was true, and also if it wasn't true. It seems court takes a lot out of a person. I think though that the US legal system should be more like Australia's. Here, if a charge of abuse is made, there is no way to get around it, it is a criminal accusation, and monetary settlements are not in any way allowed as a way out.

He has settled in the past for first 25 million and then another case for 2.5 million.

In regards to AC's comment,"If your child had been sexually molested, could any amount of cash shut you up? " Personally i'd say no and string the mother hucker up.

However, after talking to a psychiatrist friend of mine, she agreed with some experts on t.v. that it would just about ruin the kid totally to be exposed like that on T.V. and though it may be tough to do, the best thing would be to take the money, protect your child from the media, and seek therapy for the kid. Also both the families involved (including the third one now) were low income families where money is a bigger issue than to many of us.

I think if you are innocent you would be best to spend that 25 million on lawyers and prove to the world that you are innocent. However, the investigators in the first case said that they had hugely damning evidence and they couldn't believe it didn't go to court.

Whatever the case, whether he is found not guilty or guilty, I think Jacko needs some serious psychiatric help.

Why though? The man likes children. If he isn't harming another single human being on this planet what the hell does he need to get help for? He's not insane. He's "odd" to most people.

That doesn't require help.

Fundamental purpose of settlements in consideration, it still doesn't mean he did it for those reasons.

-AC

Indeed. And really, with this latest trial he has come of as a very fragile person, clearly not up to the stress of trials, so its not surprising he would probably look to avoid them if innocent, or especially if guilty.

Anyway, he's probably smart enough to know that pay off or not, people are gonna be after him. So it probably didn't make any difference.

-AC

And really, no matter how the trial ends people are going to be unhappy. If he gets of people will claim its only because of money and fame. If he gets convicted others would claim it was because of fame and his odd lifestyle. And really they may be right. Will the truth ever come out?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why though? The man likes children. If he isn't harming another single human being on this planet what the hell does he need to get help for? He's not insane. He's "odd" to most people.

That doesn't require help.

Fundamental purpose of settlements in consideration, it still doesn't mean he did it for those reasons.

-AC

Why does he need to get help?

Well he obviously has maturity issues, he also cannot deal in reality so he puts himself in a surreal fantasy world, he is filled with so much self loathing that he has completely disfigured his face through plastic surgery, he provides an isolated and unhealthy enviroment for his own children and he has not had a normal relationship with a member of the opposite sex, his family or anyone else besides a chimp (which again is not normal) in the last twenty some odd years.

I don't hate the guy, but I do think that he has got issues.

i want to live in your world AC, where the guilty are always punished,
regardless of their income or celebrity status.

What a perfect world that would be.

MICHAEL JACKSON

I REALLY CAN'T SAY IF HE DID OR NOT.SOMEONE COULD EASLY SAY YOU DID THAT TO SOMEONE BUT I DOESN'T MEAN YOU DID SO I DON'T KNOW I DO KNOW THAT IF HE DID DO IT HE SHOULD HAVE HIS BALLS CUT OFF AND FED TO HIM

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Why does he need to get help?

Well he obviously has maturity issues, he also cannot deal in reality so he puts himself in a surreal fantasy world, he is filled with so much self loathing that he has completely disfigured his face through plastic surgery, he provides an isolated and unhealthy enviroment for his own children and he has not had a normal relationship with a member of the opposite sex, his family or anyone else besides a chimp (which again is not normal) in the last twenty some odd years.

I don't hate the guy, but I do think that he has got issues.

That's all fine and dandy but what in the world has it got to do with you? Nothing.

Has he affected you? No.

Has he interfered with your life in any way? No.

Has he harmed you? No.

Has he been a danger to you or any of the general public? No.

Get over yourself. Just because you don't like all that stuff, doesn't mean he has to get help. He shuts himself off, the world drags him back out only to say "Look, look at what he's done to himself. The man is sick."

Just leave him alone and let him live in his surreal fantasy world and stop with your delusional sense of authority.

He isn't doing anything that is any of your business and therefore he doesn't need help. You think he does just because you don't like his lifestyle.

Which is pathetic.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's all fine and dandy but what in the world has it got to do with you? Nothing.

Has he affected you? No.

Has he interfered with your life in any way? No.

Has he harmed you? No.

Has he been a danger to you or any of the general public? No.

Get over yourself. Just because you don't like all that stuff, doesn't mean he has to get help. He shuts himself off, the world drags him back out only to say "Look, look at what he's done to himself. The man is sick."

Just leave him alone and let him live in his surreal fantasy world and stop with your delusional sense of authority.

He isn't doing anything that is any of your business and therefore he doesn't need help. You think he does just because you don't like his lifestyle.

Which is pathetic.

-AC

That's all fine and dandy but why are you getting so flustered over my opinion?

Has it affected you? No.

Has it interfered with your life in any way? No.

Has it harmed you? No.

Has it been a danger to you or any of the general public? No.

Get over yourself. Just because you don't like someone else's opinion, that doesn't mean you have to pontificate

You pontificate on many subjects and hold your opinions as righteous and above the reproach of others. You also defend to your dying breath a man with obvious problems and whose guilt has yet to be determined.

If you don't like what people have to say, leave the forum.

It is you attitude, outlook and response which is indeed pathetic.

first of all, we are refraining from topic

MICHAEL JACKSON TRIAL DISCUSSION
so i think its fair enough to talk about the proceedings of the trial,ONLY
you can start a new thread if you want to talk about other things about michael jackson, and the bottom line is only the TRIAL will determine his guilt or innocence, not his lifestyle. so please stick to topic. If you have nothing to say about the trial, please dont post in this thread, beacuse i think all of us have gone off topic way too much

I believe that his mental state is very relative to the topic.

its not so relevent to the trial. the trial is all about the alleged molestations, and the 2003 documentary( which we have discussed). so please just keep it to the trial, because its the topic