Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Sas raised him lightsaber when agen was struck, sids was obviously way to fast for sas, i told you she was focused on entirely something else, even if she was prepared sidious had a low stance and would aim right under saesee's stomach, becuz sas had his saber over his head.
Ok, you see the shot of the picture i showed you? Sassee raised his saber while they showed Agen's face as he was dying, in which Sidious still had his saber in Agen. Sassee had plenty of time to perform a quick strike! THEY WERE FOCUSED ON KILLING SIDIOUS, IDIOTA!
owns what, stop dreaming for a second and wake up, owning has nothing to do with his wisdom and how he managed to keep a secret and plan the wars or even fool everyone. This was his plan all along and thats what he was credited for, his intelligence, if agen and tinn were not telepathic, sidious would simply die.
Originally posted by LordSorgo
Ok, you see the shot of the picture i showed you? Sassee raised his saber while they showed Agen's face as he was dying, in which Sidious still had his saber in Agen. Sassee had plenty of time to perform a quick strike! THEY WERE FOCUSED ON KILLING SIDIOUS, IDIOTA!
thats just a fooking picture lets watch the entire scene in slow mo. he raised his saber right when agen was falling dead, so it only proves that he was entirely focused on something else. and when he finally raised his saber sids struck low, i presume u have a pic of where tinn was cut too?
Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
thats just a fooking picture lets watch the entire scene in slow mo. he raised his saber right when agen was falling dead, so it only proves that he was entirely focused on something else. and when he finally raised his saber sids struck low, i presume u have a pic of where tinn was cut too?
You "Assume" wrong. I do not. After they showed Agen's face, Sidious pulled his Saber out and stab Sassee, and then they showed Sassee's face and Sidious pulled his saber out and went after Kit. Kit blocked about two hits and got his stomach slashed.
Originally posted by LordSorgo
You "Assume" wrong. I do not. After they showed Agen's face, Sidious pulled his Saber out and stab Sassee, and then they showed Sassee's face and Sidious pulled his saber out and went after Kit. Kit blocked about two hits and got his stomach slashed.
So, while agen was dying saesee was getting prepared to strike, but obviously sids was faster, thanks for repeating what ive been saying in the last couple of posts.
Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
he basicly killed 3 and was owned by one other. Its not the death fans would expect the same like the darth maul ending, wasnt that a great one? ....................
He wasn't owned by Mace. He faked the fight, but in all reality, Mace was owned by Sidious....Y'know....fifty feet out of office window....Y'know....
So u wouldent fly out of a window if you were getting shocked to death?
GOD, he never faked the fight. THe fight was real. he really lost he forsaw it, but he knew mace would die because anakin would come to his aid, thats why he tried his best to hold of mace until he felt anakins presence. I thought u were a saber form expert anylize the fight between mace and sids, who had total control??
It's true that on paper, Windu should win if you factor in all the EU vapaad stuff. The reason Windu actually won the fight is simple:
Anakin is the main character in the movie, and he must have had some influence in the outcome of it right? Palps made his plan, and carried it out to perfection to gain his power. On his own, he did that. The clones were basically responsible for killing the jedi's. So palps and the clones did pretty much everything, with the help of Dooku and Grevious. So, what did Anakin do really?
Well, he saved palps life so that the empire could exist in the first place. Anakin MUST have saved palps from death, otherwise his role in the outcome of the movie just doesn't seem that impressive. Palps needed anakin...
First off, some of you need to lay off the fanboy crack... it's not doing any wonders for your arguments.
Second, the Episode III book supposively says that Sidious was toying with Mace. I have yet to see this. (And trust me, when I finally get to that book, I will examine it and render ultimate Janus judgment) But in any case, I would like to propose to sides of the same argument I see over and over again:
- Sidious needed Mace to turn Anakin. Is it plausible? I believe yes. By attacking or even directly trying to stop Mace from killing Palpatine, Anakin would be an enemy of the Order and there would be no turning back. Likewise, the idea of Anakin going too far occured as in the movie. So whether it was planned or not, that scenario actually happened. Did Sidious plan it? I wouldn't doubt it. Did he fake the fight? I doubt it. Yoda's battle with him proved he wasn't the swordsman everyone thought he would be. Is Sidious more powerful than Mace? Perhaps. Would he win a saber fight? I honestly don't believe so. Sidious, just as in his fight with Yoda, had to rely on the background and on trickery and mass Force manipulation to win the fight. He was LUCKY in that he was able to put Yoda out of the fight, because Yoda was about to pwn his ass. And any who argue that are watching the movie after a tampon-sized joint and a bottle of xanax.
Now... I got off track. Anyways, on the other hand, it is entirely possible that Sidious didn't know he was about to be accusted. If he did, why would he not have simply destroyed the three Jedi as they entered, such as hiding on one side of the door or some such? I mean, Sidious does have the ability to hide his presence... to mask it in the dark side of the Force. Why would he simply sit there and try to act innocent?
Now, looking at it with the premise that nothing was planned, and Sidious was truly pwned, I would chalk it up like this... Sidious would have to know the Order was coming for him, or at least entertain the possibility, since he had revealed himself to Anakin. He would have to have some reason to believe the Jedi were coming. And judging from his response to to "Master Windu", he obviously thought they were mere insects. And (thanks to piss-poor fight choreography.... those three easy kills irk me like swimming in a pool and suddenly hitting a warm spot) he took down three with ease, only to get bested by Windu. Now, it is entirely possible that Sidious overestimated his ability against Mace. He certainly did with Yoda. I mean, the guy RAN from the room where Yoda was at. Is that something you do if you easily pwn all? If you could wreck Mace, but you just weren't trying, would you feel the need to run from Yoda, who is only marginally better at swordsmanship?
Meh, I'm done with this topic for now. It's gonna degrade into a pissing contest anyway. I can't change your minds, but I can make a few observations.
Janus has a point. There really is no proof to indicate that Sidious was or was not toying with Mace. I will agree that Mace is an exceptional swordfighter - so the loss can be attributed to superior skill. However, Sidious is a mastermind on the level that no Sith Lord can rival, so perhaps he DID toy with Mace. Both explanations are plausible.
Janus. Your definition of pwned, however, must be very odd. People attribute Yoda with far too many powers. If Yoda was owning Palpatine - and owning is an easy fight, correct? - then he would've bested Sidious DESPITE Palpatine's lightning and knowledge of the environment.
No, my friend. Neither would ever OWN the other. Be careful of your wording next time. You have no proof to indicate Yoda would have OWNED Palpatine. Or vice versa.