Iceman (full potential) vs. Superman

Started by Enyalus90 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can survive absolute zero temperatures of intergalactic space. How in the hell is Iceman going to affect him? This is assuming that Iceman isn't a statue to Superman already.

Space isn't 'absolute zero.'

And Cosmic King has turned Superman's blood to Kryptonite. So Iceman freezing Superman's blood might be plausible.

Iceman can produce temperatures lower than absolute zero, read up on him. And the reason supes can take that is because of the force field that surrounds his body, but if you freeze his insides, what's he going to do?

Originally posted by KingD19
Iceman can produce temperatures lower than absolute zero

😬 What?

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can survive absolute zero temperatures of intergalactic space. How in the hell is Iceman going to affect him? This is assuming that Iceman isn't a statue to Superman already.

Space is 3 degrees above absolute zero, it's the leftover heat from the Big Bang.

Also being an Omega level mutant and all that, doesn't it mean that Iceman at full potential would be an universal level energy manipulator that's supposedly could replace the abstracts?

Originally posted by Urban Ninja
Space is 3 degrees above absolute zero, it's the leftover heat from the Big Bang.

Also being an Omega level mutant and all that, doesn't it mean that Iceman at full potential would be an universal level energy manipulator that's supposedly could replace the abstracts?

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Originally posted by KingD19
Iceman can produce temperatures lower than absolute zero, read up on him. And the reason supes can take that is because of the force field that surrounds his body, but if you freeze his insides, what's he going to do?

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Originally posted by Enyalus
Space isn't 'absolute zero.'

And Cosmic King has turned Superman's blood to Kryptonite. So Iceman freezing Superman's blood might be plausible.


Intergalactic space is very close to absolute zero. Actually in some cold spots it is. I don't know if Iceman can even reach absolute zero. I would like to see if he did.

That was using some type of energy matter manipulation and has nothing to do with plain physical freezing (something Superman is immune to). Funny thing though is that Superman has resisted matter manipulation before. I would like to see what you are talking about though.

Originally posted by h1a8
Intergalactic space is very close to absolute zero. Actually in some cold spots it is. I don't know if Iceman can even reach absolute zero. I would like to see if he did.

That was using some type of energy matter manipulation and has nothing to do with plain physical freezing (something Superman is immune to). Funny thing though is that Superman has resisted matter manipulation before. I would like to see what you are talking about though.

Space is roughly 4 K. Just above absolute zero. And if parts of it were absolute zero, you wouldn't know about it.

Cosmic King turning Superman's blood into K-nite occurs in a Superman/Batman issue. I have the scan of it, but not the issue # off hand.

Iceman wins this. With complete control over Ice and moisture. He could completely freeze Superman solid. Even the man of steel has limits.

Pretty sure Supes takes this down. If a weaker version of Superman can beat a Kryptonian Ice Goddess, Iceman has very little chance against the more powerful, Current Supes.

Unless the Kryptonian Ice Goddess had the same powers and skill as full potential Iceman, there is really no comparison.

Did she?

Originally posted by Mindset
Unless the Kryptonian Ice Goddess had the same powers and skill as full potential Iceman, there is really no comparison.

Did she?

Not really. 😮

But...but...SHE CUD MAKE IT RLY RLY COLD!!!

I concede.

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Originally posted by Starscream M
hey urban ninja, do you like Will Smith?

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Originally posted by KingD19
Iceman can produce temperatures lower than absolute zero, read up on him. And the reason supes can take that is because of the force field that surrounds his body, but if you freeze his insides, what's he going to do?

umm, no. 😬

superman's field is only partially responsible for protecting him. his body is actually incredibly durable on its own.

superman is also almost immune to different temperatures. he's very resilient. i seriously doubt bobby is going to be able to freeze superman. and even if he somehow stopped him by trapping him within ice, a blast of hv can take care of that...

Originally posted by Raoul
umm, no. 😬

superman's field is only partially responsible for protecting him. his body is actually incredibly durable on its own.

superman is also almost immune to different temperatures. he's very resilient. i seriously doubt bobby is going to be able to freeze superman. and even if he somehow stopped him by trapping him within ice, a blast of hv can take care of that...

True. It's amazing people think that his bio aura is what gives him all his durability.

His blood vessels have been described as being like concrete.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Pretty sure Supes takes this down. If a weaker version of Superman can beat a Kryptonian Ice Goddess, Iceman has very little chance against the more powerful, Current Supes.

Well, in X-Men Forever, Bobby was able to reform his body at will. Superman can hit him all he wants and it really won't do a damn. Bobby would also be able to freeze any part of Superman's organs and shatter them, most likely. Even AOA Iceman was a beast. Not to sure if that version can take down Superman, but Bobby is an Omega class mutant and probably would kill Superman if he wanted to.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Why do you think I bumped it? Best Thread I've ever participated in. Heck best thread I know of.

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Originally posted by Enyalus
Space is roughly 4 K. Just above absolute zero. And if parts of it were absolute zero, you wouldn't know about it.
Given that absolute zero is altogether hypothetical, that's why you wouldn't know about it. 😉 The universe has a natural radiation that keeps it a few degrees above absolute zero. The universe would have to pretty much completely devoid of stars, planets, energy, and all to accomplish absolute zero.

So even, hypothetically speaking, Bobby could create absolute zero temperature, the moment it entered the universe, it would be bombarded with ambient radiation, and not be absolute anymore.

Originally posted by Juntai
Given that absolute zero is altogether hypothetical, that's why you wouldn't know about it. 😉 The universe has a natural radiation that keeps it a few degrees above absolute zero. The universe would have to pretty much completely devoid of stars, planets, energy, and all to accomplish absolute zero.

So even, hypothetically speaking, Bobby could create absolute zero temperature, the moment it entered the universe, it would be bombarded with ambient radiation, and not be absolute anymore.

Well, he could keep "generating" that temperature. At the least there would be fluctuations between absolute and non-absolute zero.

Anyway, even if it was a few degrees above absolute zero, Superman might not be able to move anyway.