christian "camp" for homosexuals?

Originally posted by FeceMan
OK, I walked the dog and had time to think this over.

The goal of the camp is to 'detox' people from their sexual addictions. We live in a world where sex reigns and it is easy to obtain instant gratification for our lusts. In order to cleanse the mind, the camp strives to remove as much temptation as possible and prevent situations in which one could give in to one's lust (i.e., masturbation).

In doing this, plus the counseling sessions, the students slowly heal from their wounds, allowing them to break free from their addictions. The strictness (and con-stricting nature of the rules) is to help the people take back control over their lives. Going cold turkey is the means the camp utilizes to do so.

I'm less angry now that I thought about it that way.

Also, don't try and tell me that sexual addictions don't exist. They do, and they are just as powerful as any other addiction out there (minus the withdrawal signs, of course). This is especially true when one can get one's 'fix' easily and for free.

No, as they aren't teaching hatred and prejudice.

That's all fine and good, except that they're not only trying to free people of such "sexual addictions," but they're trying to un-gayify them... Which is completely wrong any way you look at it.

Personally I don't think there's anything spiritually wrong with sex, I try to respect most people who do, but... Homosexuality is a naturally occuring thing. In the words of Immortal Technique, the ultimate sin is to be ashamed of who you are.

I agree with DR -- they're trying to 'fix' gay kids. One of the rules of this thing is to be "Be authentic, honest, and real", but they're trying to force these kids to change the way they are -- in other words, to make them NOT be authentic, honest and real. People should simply accept the fact that not everyone is the same, and not try and force what they think on others.

BTW, masturbating isn't giving in to lust. Going out and sleeping with some random person would be.

Besides which, how does someone being gay, looking at porn, or masturbating harm anyone else? It doesn't. Therefore it is no one else's business, and no one has any right to tell them that they are wrong or try and force them to change. Live your life, and let everyone else live theres.

Yes sex addictions do exist but an addiction is only classified as such when the act begins to infringe on every aspect of your life in a negative or harmful way. To me, this just flatout doesnt qualify, seems more like something the parents dont like/dont understand/fear and so they try & have the kids brainwashed into changing for THEIR own reasons, not the kids'...

5. Your client is not allowed to talk to anyone outside of your home including friends or family. Do not tell client who has called for them or who is asking about them. Keep the thoughts of the client focused on his/her treatment.

THIS is brainwashing.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
THIS is brainwashing.

Originally posted by Lana
I agree with DR -- they're trying to 'fix' gay kids. One of the rules of this thing is to be "Be authentic, honest, and real", but they're trying to force these kids to change the way they are -- in other words, to make them NOT be authentic, honest and real. People should simply accept the fact that not everyone is the same, and not try and force what they think on others.

BTW, masturbating isn't giving in to lust. Going out and sleeping with some random person would be.

Besides which, how does someone being gay, looking at porn, or masturbating harm anyone else? It doesn't. Therefore it is no one else's business, and no one has any right to tell them that they are wrong or try and force them to change. Live your life, and let everyone else live theres.

That's ****ing stupid.

I swear, one of these days I'm gonna create a disease that only kills christians and release it upon them!

The world does not revolve around christian beliefs. Christian beliefs and not right, nor wrong. There is no right or wrong, it's time these morons realise that.

Originally posted by FeceMan
They have come because they know what they are doing is wrong.

And just who the Hell decides what is right and what is wrong?

You? I don't think so rolleyes1

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's quite disgraceful, it really is about time that these religious nutcases realise than not all people actually want to share their beliefs.

You belief in a way of "life" (if you can call it that) others don't. Deal with it.

I'm sorry to any christians.

Not actually sorry if I've offended you, just sorry that you're actually a christian.

-AC

That's just lovely....

I'm proud to be christian, that camp however is disgusting and it's horrible that all christians are being associated with it now.

should have a homosexual camp for christians, on the first day you learn "you cant have that crutssssifix with the blue tsjhirt"

Stupid camp for stupid people.

Hope a stray missile hits the place

if ppl really want to go they should, but forcing this on people would be very wrong.

I'm also said for people who feel that they are doing something wrong just because they're gay. There is nothing wrong with it.

AC you are seriously generalizing all christians man

Originally posted by BlackC@t
That's ****ing stupid.

I swear, one of these days I'm gonna create a disease that only kills christians and release it upon them!

The world does not revolve around christian beliefs. Christian beliefs and not right, nor wrong. There is no right or wrong, it's time these morons realise that.

I'm not going to even get into how incorrect that statement is.

Originally posted by BlackC@t
And just who the Hell decides what is right and what is wrong?

You? I don't think so rolleyes1

By the way, you didn't quote the whole sentence.

The testimonials were all from people who had signed themselves up, but I get the feeling from reading the "Parental Rules" that this kid isn't the only one whose family sent him there.

Also, keep in mind that there are very few testimonials for the number of people who must go there.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
The testimonials were all from people who had signed themselves up, but I get the feeling from reading the "Parental Rules" that this kid isn't the only one whose family sent him there.

Also, keep in mind that there are very few testimonials for the number of people who must go there.

(Though it still is brainwashing. However, they volunteered to be brainwashed.)

EDIT: Now that I think of it, for the people that want to go, it does seem like a decent camp, but it just *feels* wrong, if you know what I mean. I can't explain it; it is just a sensation probably similar to that oft-trumpeted ability known as 'women's intuition'.

ok I'm getting a tad confused Fece you for or against the camp?

Originally posted by Fire
ok I'm getting a tad confused Fece you for or against the camp?

ok then I ain't the only one confused. But just to be clear about another thing, not to judge you or anything, but you believe homosexuality is wrong right?

Originally posted by Fire
ok then I ain't the only one confused. But just to be clear about another thing, not to judge you or anything, but you believe homosexuality is wrong right?

ok, so people can be gay as long as they don't have sex? or they can't even have a relationship?

Originally posted by Fire
ok, so people can be gay as long as they don't have sex? or they can't even have a relationship?

I believe former is wrong; how exactly do you mean the latter?