Can any one religion be true all by itself and no other?

Started by finti18 pages

jesus said that the disciples never lie huh?

I know, I know....Peter lied...

That was before they had the holy spirit at Pentecost. He wasn't a believer yet, because he still doubted like the rest of them. They didn't believe until after the resurrection.

Originally posted by cking
That was before they had the holy spirit at Pentecost. He wasn't a believer yet, because he still doubted like the rest of them. They didn't believe until after the resurrection.

OH...come on..Now you're saying that the Holy Spirit causes people to not lie.....So, are you saying Peter didn't believe Jesus until after Pentecost?

no, they were still struggling with belief at that time. I didn't say with the spirit you wouldn't have the ability to lie no! He did but he didn't have the holy spirit until Jesus left the earth. because Jesus said the helper cannot come until I leave and it will lead men to all things. We all have the ability to lie with the spirit, the only difference is we get convicted of it.

peter was still struggling with the belief and when the spirit arrived the apostles were doing things that they couldn't do without the spirit. before Jesus died they trying to do the things Jesus was doing, but Jesus said the only reason they couldn't get the demon out of the man because of unbelief. when they received the spirit, they could do those things. many people did try to do it in Jesus name but the demon jumped on them instead because they had no belief.

Originally posted by cking
peter was still struggling with the belief and when the spirit arrived the apostles were doing things that they couldn't do without the spirit. before Jesus died they trying to do the things Jesus was doing, but Jesus said the only reason they couldn't get the demon out of the man because of unbelief. when they received the spirit, they could do those things. many people did try to do it in Jesus name but the demon jumped on them instead because they had no belief.

People have cast demons out not using Jesus name though.....And people do healings Not in Jesus name...How would you explain that?

that is true but they have to have belief in it. if not it will not happen for them.

Originally posted by cking
that is true but they have to have belief in it. if not it will not happen for them.

So..people can do miracles without the name of Jesus...right?

yes but with belief in Jesus that he will help them do it.

Originally posted by cking
yes but with belief in Jesus that he will help them do it.

There have been people healed of tumors in no ones name...So, who's healing them???

Jesus is

Originally posted by cking
Jesus is

People are being healed in others name...so who are healing them?

no one or maybe buddha is doing it?

Originally posted by cking
I'm sorry man can't find salvation through themselves, we tried that already and we failed. God can only save us now. A sinner can't save a sinner. People are brainwashed by these other new ages beliefs that you can only save yourself. How can sin save sin? it can't, you will fail every time if you do it on your own. that is why their is a need for a savior because we are all born in sin.

Those aren't new age belifes.They pre-date Christianity.

That was before they had the holy spirit at Pentecost. He wasn't a believer yet, because he still doubted like the rest of them. They didn't believe until after the resurrection
still they already been portrayed as a liars so ...............

just because someone is healed, doesn't mean jesus did it, i mean, you say that just because they believed it would happen made jesus do it, so them just believing it would happen makes jesus the cause of them being healed, no i dont think so.

just believing in something doesn't make it so.

Boy this is all over the place, let's try to actually answer the question that was put forth. Can any one religion be totally right?

What is a religion? If it's just a philosophy or way of living then no, There's good ways of living and bad, as long as you've got a good way you'll probably be fine... at least in this life.

If however Religion is more than that, the answer could be yes. If religion is instead the attempt for someone to draw nearer deity, or knowledge about deity, then there could actually be only a very few, possibly even one "true" religion.

Here's a list of assumptions that I think would have to be true for the question to be answered in the affirmative:

1- God exists (meaning a god, not necessarily the one we are all talking about)

2-God actually want's people to draw closer to Him(I say Him, but that's just because of my belief, not actually part of the assumption)

If those 2 things are true there is a definite set of facts that describe God. He is either corporeal or not, loving or not, omnipotent, omniscient, etc. or not. Beliefs outside of those truths would of course be false by definition.

Now the second part, getting closer to him, assumes that he wants us there. Such a being would be the only person with the knowledge of how to do that, so only those he informed could show the way (or religion) to do so.

So to answer the original question, Yes, it is possible.

Originally posted by docb77
Boy this is all over the place, let's try to actually answer the question that was put forth. Can any one religion be totally right?

What is a religion? If it's just a philosophy or way of living then no, There's good ways of living and bad, as long as you've got a good way you'll probably be fine... at least in this life.

If however Religion is more than that, the answer could be yes. If religion is instead the attempt for someone to draw nearer deity, or knowledge about deity, then there could actually be only a very few, possibly even one "true" religion.

Here's a list of assumptions that I think would have to be true for the question to be answered in the affirmative:

1- God exists (meaning a god, not necessarily the one we are all talking about)

2-God actually want's people to draw closer to Him(I say Him, but that's just because of my belief, not actually part of the assumption)

If those 2 things are true there is a definite set of facts that describe God. He is either corporeal or not, loving or not, omnipotent, omniscient, etc. or not. Beliefs outside of those truths would of course be false by definition.

Now the second part, getting closer to him, assumes that he wants us there. Such a being would be the only person with the knowledge of how to do that, so only those he informed could show the way (or religion) to do so.

So to answer the original question, Yes, it is possible.

If God wanted, God would be incomplete.