The inkeeper is right - Tolkien never gives a birth date of Legolas:
''Legolas' date of birth is not known. He passed over the Sea in IV 120''
EDIT: Sorry! I didnt realise i was reading page one until i posted the message so its a bit late! lol🙂 (Just read the last message on the 1s page then u'll know waht i was replying to🙂)
Originally posted by The Inkeeper
Argument over.
😄 The only ages i can find of Legolas are either from unrelaible sources and The Top Trumps cars which say he is 7000!
Legolas refers to his companions as children, and when he, Gimli, Aragorn, and Gandalf are approaching Meduseld he says that the leaves have fallen five hundred times in Mirkwood since the Rohirrim came out of the north. He also makes it sound as though he had lived through all five hundred years. Elsewhere he says he has watched many an acorn grow up and die as a hoary old oak tree. As Elves go Legolas is probably not ancient, but he seems to have been around for a while. And yet, Lorien is a mysterious place to him. Legolas has never visited there. It seems strange that he should not know anything about a land of Silvan Elves.
If he were barely more than 500 years old at the time of the War of the Ring, Legolas would have lived through several significant events. He would recall the coming of Smaug to Erebor, and the destruction of the kingdoms of Dale and Erebor. He would remember the Long Winter, and probably would have been one of the Elven lords defending Thranduil in the Battle of Five Armies. He thus would have known some dangers and hardships, and so was well able to care for himself. He seems to fight the Orcs well enough at Parth Galen and later at Helm's Deep to show he is an accomplished warrior. He threatens Eomer's life on Gimli's behalf with all the confidence of a veteran.
Since Tolkien doesn't mention Legolas in the scanty accounts of the War of the Last Alliance most people seem willing to accept that Legolas was probably born in the Third Age......
Legolas has no age...🙂
Legolas has no age...🙂
But I know what you mean. 😉 We have some clues to safely rule out a "several thousand year old Legolas" though.
And nice post. Those are some excerpts from the article that I posted a link about, right? 🙂 It gives me pleasure to know that some people still take the time to read that kinda stuff. 😛
Now if some people could only be bothered to do the same...😐
Originally posted by shadowy_blue
I bet he does. We just don't know. 😛But I know what you mean. 😉 We have some clues to safely rule out a "several thousand year old Legolas" though.
And nice post. Those are some excerpts from the article that I posted a link about, right? 🙂 It gives me pleasure to know that some people still take the time to read that kinda stuff. 😛
Now if some people could only be bothered to do the same...😐
there is no way that Legolas would have felt old if he was very young for an elf. e.g under 1000 years old.
Originally posted by The Inkeeper
Actually, Gandalf and Sauron will be the same age round about, and Treebeard is much younger than Gandy.Just....Sauron and Treebeard were in middle earth before Gandalf, he just chilled out with his Posse in Valinor.
Gandalf came to middles earth at the beggining of the Third Age didn't he and are there any hints to tell us how old he actually is.
Originally posted by shadowy_blue
LOL, that would make him even older than Elrond who was born in the First Age. 😂
And... if he was more than 7,000 years old, the things he is named after, green leaves, wouldn't even have existed yet in Middle-earth 😖
Originally posted by Dresta
there is no way that Legolas would have felt old if he was very young for an elf. e.g under 1000 years old.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
You know why? Because HE WAS TALKING TO ARAGORN AND GIMLI. Two creatures that are considerably younger than him. Personally, I couldn't see any other Elves in the company that he could have been comparing his age to. Yes, he's the oldest in the company next to Gandalf, but it's only in the CONTEXT of the FELLOWSHIP. Also, as I've been saying, he was talking about the Fangorn Forest which was made even before the Elves, Dwarves and pretty much everything else in Middle-earth have been awaken. Meaning, the fact that being in Fangorn made him feel young doesn't necessarily mean that he's as old as every other Elves. It's because EVERYONE, maybe except the Istari, would feel young in that freakin' forest.
Stop forcing your opinion to everyone without even giving us any reasons why you feel that Legolas MUST be a several thousand years old, other than that one sentence in the book and the fact that he's immortal. You didn't even acknowledge all the stuff that DanielLB and I have bothered to post here.
Are you even planning to support your claim? Or are you just going to keep on insisting that Legolas is 4 or 5 thousand years old just because you want him to be? Are you going to fully ignore all the clues that state otherwise? Are you going to do that until the world dies? Because, sorry...I don't think anyone would be interested in discussing this with you forever. This will be my last post regarding Legolas' age, and if you still don't get the point, then I'm very sorry. Really, I am.
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Originally posted by Dresta
Gandalf came to middles earth at the beggining of the Third Age didn't he and are there any hints to tell us how old he actually is.
Originally posted by Exabyte
It would probably make him older than his own father.And... if he was more than 7,000 years old, the things he is named after, green leaves, wouldn't even have existed yet in Middle-earth 😖
Originally posted by Dresta
Gandalf came to middles earth at the beggining of the Third Age didn't he and are there any hints to tell us how old he actually is.
He has been around since before the world was made. No way does Legolas even come close to him.
Legolas has a big ego, calling people children when he isnt even the oldest in the fellowship, i would dearly love to exrete my waste into his food supply.
Originally posted by The Inkeeper
He has been around since before the world was made. No way does Legolas even come close to him.
for sure but i didn't say he was nearly as old as Gandalf. it's also Legolas's manner that makes me beleive he is not that young for an elf. although there is no way to prove this arguement either way it should end now.