Trinity or not.

Started by finti11 pages

even so, the new testament can be interpreter diffrently than the wording............................and just as a curisosity do YOU feel the Adam and Eve stroy is a symbolic one

It doesn't depend on the interpreter. It's the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit taught us to believe that the accounts of Adam and Eve as recorded in the books of Moses happened literally.

It doesn't depend on the interpreter. It's the Holy Spirit.
it is translated manuscript where the "originals" is of questionable origin.

You don't believe in our God, so I'm not surprised with your opinon.

You don't believe in our God, so I'm not surprised with your opinon.
even christians have to question the context of the the originalyty of the gospels taken the fact that the 4 gospls was chosen among plenty of gospels.
Also just out of curiosity do you end Mark with 16:8 or do you recognise 16:9-20 (longer ending to the Marcan gospel)

The TRUE Christians do not question the authenticity and the originality of the Words of God written in the Bible, for the TRUTH in those Words was revealed to us by the Holy Spirit.

And as a True Christian and a servant to the Lord, we know which is the original and which is not. As long as it was "inspired" by God Himself... we don't question the origin of the Gospel.

The TRUE Christians do not question the authenticity and the originality of the Words of God written in the Bible, for the TRUTH in those Words was revealed to us by the Holy Spirit
blind faith in other words

And as a True Christian and a servant to the Lord, we know which is the original and which is not. As long as it was "inspired" by God Himself... we don't question the origin of the Gospel
yeah propagand sure does work good among and on the christians.

So when does Mark end?

I respect your opinion, fins. 🙂

so when does mark end?

We recognize the Gospel until Mark 16:20. If it ends only until Mark 16:8, it doesn''t matter.

it is obvious that the edition to mark 16:9-20 is added later which again goes on the authenticity and the hold of the gospel

FATHER, SON, & HOLY GHOST in one place!

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. [Matthew 3:16,17]

1.) Jesus being baptized, 2.) holy spirit desending like a dove, 3.)Father's voice.

For sure ... Trio or Tinity

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Originally posted by svnthdysthsbbth
FATHER, SON, & HOLY GHOST in one place!

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. [Matthew 3:16,17]

1.) Jesus being baptized, 2.) holy spirit desending like a dove, 3.)Father's voice.

Who let the sheep in? 😆

Originally posted by svnthdysthsbbth
FATHER, SON, & HOLY GHOST in one place!

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. [Matthew 3:16,17]

1.) Jesus being baptized, 2.) holy spirit desending like a dove, 3.)Father's voice.

Nope. Not credible proof of Trinity.

and what credible proff do you have for the biblical stories

Originally posted by svnthdysthsbbth
FATHER, SON, & HOLY GHOST in one place!

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. [Matthew 3:16,17]

1.) Jesus being baptized, 2.) holy spirit desending like a dove, 3.)Father's voice.

the whole dove thing came from a more ancient souce...SORRY...

Just Here to say That Jesus understood himself to be God and that Other books of the Bible (OT and NT) also prove that Jesus is God.

Jesus said: ".. unless you believe that I am (ego eimi, greek) , you shall die in your sins (John 8:24). . It simply reads "... unless you believe that I am..." He told the Jews, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am (ego eimi) " (John 8:28).

An example of when Jesus called Himself "I Am" is when the Jews said to Jesus: " You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham? ' Jesus said to them 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I AM (Greek: ego eimi) . Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him' ' (John 8:57-59). They wanted to kill Jesus for he presumption of that claim to deity. The OTwas clear. The prescribed penalty for blasphemy was to be stoned to death (Leviticus 24:16) . Thats exsatly what they were going to do to Jesus.

Jesus excepted being called Lord and God in John 20:28.

And blesses those who belive he is without seeing him.

Psalm 110:1 shows a dialogue between God and God. David writes, “The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.” Jesus uses this quite nicely against the Pharisees when he asks them how this could be David’s Lord and yet his son at the same time. The Messiah will be of the tribe of Judah, David’s son, yet David’s Lord. The wording here must also be noted. A plain translation says “Yahweh said to my Adonai…” The word “Yahweh” is God’s name, literally stated “I am.” Each time the designation Yahweh is used in the Bible through the Old Testament it refers to the “ I AM”. The word “Adonai” is used in designating God’s supreme position as “Lord and ruler.” So Yahweh is speaking to Adonai. Basically God speaking to God.

Isaiah 9:6

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

Jeremiah 23:5-6. “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.”

The Messiah will be “THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.” This title is a title given to God literally as “Yahweh Tsidkenu.” The Messiah is not only raised up by God but called "Yahweh is Righteousness". The Messiah is Yahweh. The Messiah is God by nature.

(these are probaly my only posts here)

and what helpful posts they were 🙄