Originally posted by TwisterGameXBecause that's all that's shown. THAT is logical. You have no evidence of your claims.
Piccolo destroyed moons which is bigger than king kias planet and the fact that he slevel nothing and weak. So why do you assume it's only planet destroying, you can't just assume then. It's logical.
Evidence is vital to turn hypothesis into fact. You have noevidence of it destroying more.
You need to PROVE it destroys more.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXI already showed you how your analogy was flawed. Stop strawmanning and provide the evidence of it doing more. ENOUGH with the hyperbole.
Um how do you know it was just enought to destroy a polanet it c ould of been much greater. I have an egg on the floor and I throw a car on it..yes it smashes but is the car only enough to smash the egg ?Ok cresh the car is onbly enough to smash an egg right.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXDoesn't need to be. . Go look up the definition of cannon.
I doubt there were only action comics 🙂
It has to fit within the timeline. It's not like I'm trying to use pre-crises supes, or a what if supes, or Superman prime, or Superman one million.
I'm using regular old Post crises Superman from his own timeline.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXYeah, teleportation. Like Nightcrawler, only nightcrawler goes into another dimension rather than just turning into light. . .
Did you hear how he explained it and when he does it he said he is movoing at thi sspeed per second ? NO I suggest you watch dbz some more and i dn listen for once, and take down your superman posters.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Doesn't need to be. . Go look up the definition of cannon.It has to fit within the timeline. It's not like I'm trying to use pre-crises supes, or a what if supes, or Superman prime, or Superman one million.
I'm using regular old Post crises Superman from his own timeline.
Um it's in the time line just a movie.....freizas brother...
Originally posted by Creshosk
Teleportation. not acvtual movement, it doesn't make him swing faster.
it is a form of moevment though.. he doesn't teleport from one location to the next he just moves at a comparible speed.. it's displayed in movie 6 and 8, he also mentioned it in the subtitled version about when frieza got to earth...
Originally posted by Creshosk
One at a time or Hyperbole.Movies aren't cannon.
it seems like hyperbole in this case is subjective to the opinion of what dbz characters can do at will.. it's been shown they can blow up planets at will at extremely weaker levels.. thus it's no exxageration in my mind when they take out solar system etc...
and you are already fully aware that I'm using the movies for the purposes of this discussion.. or at least.. I though you were.. 🤨
Originally posted by Creshosk
And. . excuses. Actually. What I said was ture. his durability should have been enough to take it, or is it only dependant on his chi in the first place? Which means if Goku wears out he gets weaker. . . Sorta like. . like. . Spiderman against Wovlerine. . .
kay yeah, their durability is definitely contingent upon their level of chi which is contingent upon their stamina... thus why a meteorite almost killed a worn out vegeta after he trained at 400 times earths gravity...
Originally posted by Creshosk
It's basically an exageration. If you can present the evidence, then it's not hyperbole anymore. Otherwise it's just hearsay and hyperbole.It's not SHOWN through out the show. Thus it's hyperbole.
it is shown throughout the show.. everytime a (once powerful) character gets owned by a currently strong character.. the characters are what's to be used to asser accurate levels of comparison...
Originally posted by Creshosk
Because that's all that's shown. THAT is logical. You have no evidence of your claims.Evidence is vital to turn hypothesis into fact. You have noevidence of it destroying more.
You need to PROVE it destroys more.
I already showed you how your analogy was flawed. Stop strawmanning and provide the evidence of it doing more. ENOUGH with the hyperbole.
wait so under tha same notion.. because superman didn't destroy a city block with one punch to a villain (even though he's done so in the past) in any given moment.. than we are to assume that his punch simply couldn't do more damage than it did...
Originally posted by TwisterGameXYes you are.
ignorant
Originally posted by TwisterGameXNot the official cannon timeline.
Um it's in the time line just a movie.....freizas brother...
Originally posted by jinzinMovies aren't cannon
it is a form of moevment though.. he doesn't teleport from one location to the next he just moves at a comparible speed.. it's displayed in movie 6 and 8, he also mentioned it in the subtitled version about when frieza got to earth...
Originally posted by jinzinUntil it's proven, it's still just hyperbole.
it seems like hyperbole in this case is subjective to the opinion of what dbz characters can do at will.. it's been shown they can blow up planets at will at extremely weaker levels.. thus it's no exxageration in my mind when they take out solar system etc...
Originally posted by jinzinI'm well aware that you are trying, but Movies simply aren't cannon. Or could I use a theoretical Superman? Since Prime technically isn't actual cannon, as Superman hasn't BEEN prime. . .
and you are already fully aware that I'm using the movies for the purposes of this discussion.. or at least.. I though you were.. 🤨
Originally posted by jinzinSeen every episode multiple times, lived with DBZ nuts for years. Read all the manga. . . And then I went and lived with a now ex-girlfriend and her brothers and their freinds were all DBZ nuts. . and they had the toys, three of each and every DBZ toy ever released, oh we had such fun with our own tournaments and making up our own characters. . . I miss that. . .
oh.. ok.. you made an uneducated inference... do you watch the show that much cresh?
Originally posted by jinzinHmm. . . This means that Superman will win in the long run even if he doesn't anihilate Goku right away. *points lazily to Magog war scans*
kay yeah, their durability is definitely contingent upon their level of chi which is contingent upon their stamina... thus why a meteorite almost killed a worn out vegeta after he trained at 400 times earths gravity...
Originally posted by jinzinYeah, but only up enough to beat the character and only to a point. Once the Buus came along that was pretty much it. . couldn't beat buu in ssj2 or ssj3. . the power amp was insufficient. . . So no, it doesn't appear to be billions or whatever. . . enhanced.
it is shown throughout the show.. everytime a (once powerful) character gets owned by a currently strong character.. the characters are what's to be used to asser accurate levels of comparison...
Originally posted by jinzinSo, we're allowed to assume that Superman's punch can dop more than its actually shown to do?
wait so under tha same notion.. because superman didn't destroy a city block with one punch to a villain (even though he's done so in the past) in any given moment.. than we are to assume that his punch simply couldn't do more damage than it did...
So Superman can punch through dimensions? And punch galaxies or even JP out of existence?