Originally posted by TheQuincy
Thats a dumb excuse man. And putting "superman wins" and that ridiculous smily after every post u make is pointless now. We know where u stand. And Those pics show superman getting wrecked by someone goku could obliterate in seconds. Goku Wins. 🙂 😄 😆
How is Goku going to hurt Superman when he could barly push a moutain apart inssj2 or ssj4 when he struggled with pushing a building in place and having trouble lifting people on a small rock? Superman whould destroy Goku in a sec.
Here's ssj2 Goku struggling to push a moutain apart, something Superman was doing ten years ago.
http://myfavoritegames.com/dragonball-z/Media/Video_Clips/VideoClips.htm
Here's Superman's feats.
Supes is using his Heat Vision to get the foe off of him.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5001/supes8cz.jpg
Supes shoots a beam of low-intensity Heat Vision at the Moon. People in the watch tower was blinded except for Plastic Man cause sense he had shades on. The Moon is very far from Earth, this shows the range Supes Heat Vision has.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9708/supermansheatvision24vv.jpg
In this pic it shows that Supes Heat Vision stated by them, "his vision is off the charts by any standard scientific measures". They can measure how hot a star is, but they cannot measure the temp of Supermans Heat Vision.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg
In this pic his power is waning under a red sun, but he still summoned enough Heat Vision to successfully power Jor-ELs planet-moving ion engines. The in this case had a mass 16 times that of Earth's.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6824/supermansheatvision17gy.jpg
In this pic, Superman is flying by the sun to stop the Cannabal planet from destroying the sun. This also prove that Supes is able to blow up a planet aswell. He also heated up a plaent with his Heat Vision before too.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7923/supermansheatvison2np.jpg
Superman calculating the guys melting point. Wich also shows how much he holds back with his Heat Vision, to keep from killing his foes.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8360/08222005124926pm7ji.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3679/08222005125029pm5zg.jpg
Supes just spraying this guy with Heat Vision. If he wanted to, he could kill Goku easily with Heat Vision, without even letting him even breath.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1535/0822311an.jpg
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Superman can also blind his opponent or just lobotimize his foe with Heat Vision. If he was fighting to kill without holding back there's no telling what he'll do.
Here's proof that Supes is light speed, and is far faster than any DBZ/GT character.
Superman catching bullets with little effort. This is something the DBZ/Gt characters can do also though.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7786/08222005050314pm5fl.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/530/supermancatchingbullets2ww.jpg
Here's Superman reading at high speeds (something Goku or any of the DBZ/GT characters ever done).
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4955/superman1451ba.jpg
Superman fighting at high speeds.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9203/pics0017bn.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpg
Here's Superman vibrating (phasing) his body so fast that hes going right through Doomsday Lightning/Fire Breath. This is proof that hes far faster than any DBZ/GT character.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1971/supermanfast3ar.jpg
Here's Superman vibrating his body invisible now, something they also can't do either.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/553/supermaninvisible44zc.jpg
Here's Superman calculating how fast to go on Earths Surface in populated areas. He also plug Lois them ears with cotton while he flew through.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9101/0869a916yt.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/704/08222005052719pm2ys.jpg
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Lois asks Superman for Champagne from another contry, and by the time she finishes her short sentence, Supes already got it, and has been waiting for a while.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5899/supespeed6kt.jpg
Superman traveling at high speeds in space.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1831/supermanhaulingassagain37xc.jpg
Superman heres GL (Kyle) about a million miles away from Earth in bed, and he gets there in seconds.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1954/08222005054558pm3oy.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2785/08222005054722pm5jq.jpg
Here's Superman taking Darksied to the sun in seconds. It takes light 8 minutes to get from Earth to the Sun.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5590/darksiedbeaten7sq.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6573/darksiedbeaten25ph.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/192/supermanbatman13pg08097cu.jpg
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Superman is far stronger too, as is always holding back. Superman hits Lobo from Earth into orbit, Lobo stats that if he doesn't stop himself that he'll spend the next century obitting around the planet.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4643/supeslobo0uo.jpg
Superman and G. Zod blows are so devastating that they are creating earthquakes and the planet is falling apart. And he was still holding back while fighting under a red sun.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9351/08302005032341pm7oo.jpg
Here's Supes when hes done pulling his punches.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3613/cy14oq.jpg
Here's Superman holding a black hole in the palm of his hand for a while.
Which makes him far stronger than than Goku.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg
Here's Superman taking several particle beams.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/60/09122118lq.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3651/durability55et.jpg
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http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4640/durability20ki.jpg
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Superman taking a blast equal to a million nuclear blasts.
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Superman surviving the destruction of a sun eater at ground zero. The sun eater is an enormously energetic cloud that literally eats both the energy and mass of whole stars. The sun eater was considerably larger than a star, had been in existence for millenia and had consumed the energy of many stars by travelling from galaxy to galaxy. Which proves that he's far more durable than any DBZ/GT character.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7467/09122005080012pm3uo.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4746/09122005080419pm3ri.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7775/durability49cp.jpg
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Here's Superman actually escaping a double black hole (which beats every feat ssj3/4 Goku or any DBZ/GT character has ever done), this proves his strength, speed, and durability.
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4198/untitled128qt3bk.jpg
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Superman has ssj3/4 Goku in strength, speed, durability, and stamina. Goku loses.
🙂 🙂
Wait, you guys really think think Superman could beat goku ?
The military hurts Superman, and everything but A DBZ character, is not affected in the least. We all know, DBZ is overpowered, don't insult Superman as being that powerful.
Goku charges, up and the Planet shakes. Spirit bomb, Kamehameha, Solar Flare, Dragon Fist. Sorry Superman, but no.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Wait, you guys really think think Superman could beat goku ?The military hurts Superman, and everything but A DBZ character, is not affected in the least. We all know, DBZ is overpowered, don't insult Superman as being that powerful.
Goku charges, up and the Planet shakes. Spirit bomb, Kamehameha, Solar Flare, Dragon Fist. Sorry Superman, but no.
So basically you don't read Superman comics is what your saying. 🙄
Originally posted by dvampire
So basically you don't read Superman comics is what your saying. 🙄
I love Superman, but come on GOKU SSJ. DBZ is way to over powered, thats why no one likes it. Goku blinks, and half the planet blows up. If Superman could beat goku, then thats over doing it, and thas when people will stop, likeing Superman.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
I love Superman, but come on GOKU SSJ. DBZ is way to over powered, thats why no one likes it. Goku blinks, and half the planet blows up. If Superman could beat goku, then thats over doing it, and thas when people will stop, likeing Superman.
Goku at ssj 1 (and any other transformation for that matter) whould have his head riped off by Superman. And your over-exaggerating the DBZ/GT characters powers if you even think Goku is capable of something like that. Superman wins. And there's lots of characters that could beat the DBZ/GT characters, not just Superman IMO.
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Originally posted by SeerQris
Do you agree with this or do you still think that nothing weaker than a black hole can hurt superman. If you still think that just say so, So i can find the smoking gun evidence for you, of Superman being hurt by something weaker than a black hole in his current state of "strongness" I know those pics are old I put them up all in fun. So just say the word cresh and I will show you that Superman Can be hurt by something weaker than a black hole even in his new upgraded state. I hope you reply to this instead of sidestep it like you have all my other claims. Keep this in mind. Whenever you sidestep an argument you lose credibility.
No, I'm ususlly ignoring arguments that are so ridiculous that they really don't need to be addressed.But since you insist I need to point out that saying pulling away something of extreme gravity is not a strength feat undermines Goku's best feats. As moving easily in high gravity is how our DBZ friends got stronger, that and weights on them.
Also, a black hole is not like a single punch to the face. That's like saying that once you resist the initial pull of the black hole once it's not going to pull on you again, rather than being a constant pull on you and your physical form. Maintaining your form and moving without being crushed in the high gravity is an exceptional feat of strength, durability and speed.
I was asking one small question u elaborated into other things(never answering the question at hand) that I have not been implying.. Do you still think that since Super man survived a black hole that nothing weaker than a black hole can hurt him? Simple question. If so I would like to provide you with evidence that its not true. I know you like proof and I would love to deliver. Also It would be great if you could provide me evidece of superman having hte power to destroy a planet. Im not infering anything by this, its a simple task. A test of evidence. If your not up for it then whatever.
No, I'm ususlly ignoring arguments that are so ridiculous that they really don't need to be addressed.
So your ignoring your own argument you are the one that said since superman survived a black hole nothing less can hurt him. I can copy and paste your exact words if u'd like.
Originally posted by dvampire
How is Goku going to hurt Superman when he could barly push a moutain apart inssj2 or ssj4 when he struggled with pushing a building in place and having trouble lifting people on a small rock? Superman whould destroy Goku in a sec.Here's ssj2 Goku struggling to push a moutain apart, something Superman was doing ten years ago.
http://myfavoritegames.com/dragonball-z/Media/Video_Clips/VideoClips.htm
🙂 🙂
As far as this inconsistancy of goku struggling to split a mountian apart, superman has struggled to hold the daily planet globe up. But i chose not to use this becuase it is an inconsistancy and i would rather not get into that, becasue it happens.
And as far as speed goes, Goku is definately (at least) on supermans level. Once again i restate the fact that goku moves at the speed of thought. The afterimage techinque is the equivelant of a short range teleport. which is instant . Instant is an incalulable number, where as the speed of light calculable. I also remind you that once again goku has been fighting at speeds invisible to the human eye before even mastering the kayoken techinque. His level has grown exponentially since that day. Its hard to imagine the full potential of his speed in combat. Superman at the minimum, is not faster than goku. Infact -- hes slower. Im pertty sure teleportation is swifter than light speed. and im not too sure how useful flying at light speed would be in combat, whereas gokus after image has proven useful in combat. Fighting at high speeds is gokus playground.
Stamina wise, i cant really say superman has an advantage either. Gokus fight with frieza caused namek to colapse. Gokus fight with majin buu was an incredible test of strength and portrayed gokus staminous nature. Takeing Geographically altering blows and coming back unphazed (at one point goku was even outmatched, yet he still hung with him). Fighting at incaluclable speeds for incredible ammounts of time. And these are just two fights, one of them only being at a mere supersayin level 1.
Take in to account, once again i remind you, Superman is an inferior fighter. Goku unquestionably owns superman in combat due to his impecible knowledge of arts unfimiliar to superman. his sayin ancestory devoted itself to combat, and goku is no different. Could superman even hit goku? Goku has clearly displayed he is capable of reading attacks at incredible speeds, combind with the fact that he is allready a master of the arts, and Goku is incredibly powerful. Must i remind you he absorbed the dragonballs. Supermans only strength in this fight might be his stamina, but thats not going to do much if your opponent is as strong (and in my opinion, stronger) than you, and has more variaty in his possession than you, and is more than capable of dealing the blows neccessairy to take your stamina to a non existant state.
Look supes is powerful, he has a lot of comics to his name where his "powers" fluctuate... alot... one min hes traveling at the speed of light.. the next hes traveling a million miles in a second... Its like the flash... theres a pick going round where he moves a whole town load of people to avoid a nuke..... when you think about it and work out the math he needs to go 1million times lightspeed, comics exaggerate all the time, whats sad is you can't tell the difference between there powers and the exaggerations...
Superman might be ultimately powerful... but hes still made of atoms...
Atoms that would get squashed in a double black hole... Hell you could argue that superman would survive the end of the universe, (presuming its an open universe, which will eventually fold in...) Superman surviving the whole universe collapsing??? WOOO GOOO SUPES! Could superman survive a big bang??? Hell why not?? I suppose he could take on god by the end of it....
No one could escape a double black hole....
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Look supes is powerful, he has a lot of comics to his name where his "powers" fluctuate... alot... one min hes traveling at the speed of light.. the next hes traveling a million miles in a second... Its like the flash... theres a pick going round where he moves a whole town load of people to avoid a nuke..... when you think about it and work out the math he needs to go 1million times lightspeed, comics exaggerate all the time, whats sad is you can't tell the difference between there powers and the exaggerations...Superman might be ultimately powerful... but hes still made of atoms...
Atoms that would get squashed in a double black hole... Hell you could argue that superman would survive the end of the universe, (presuming its an open universe, which will eventually fold in...) Superman surviving the whole universe collapsing??? WOOO GOOO SUPES! Could superman survive a big bang??? Hell why not?? I suppose he could take on god by the end of it....No one could escape a double black hole....
Superman can escape a double black hole. 😕 Superman wins. 😄
