Originally posted by Master CourtI said by best feats Superman is stronger. By popular opinion Superman is stronger but not as versatile as most.
I get it. You don't know what you're talking about.Combo to ko, Superman is stronger than everyone just because you say so, and you're even taking Thor's words out of context in the classic fashion of those that have poor arguments.
Hercules would lose 10/10 to Thor. Thor has powers and flight Hercules doesn't. In h2h Hercules might win a slight majority but this isn't h2h. Hulk is a brick with little to no skills. A serious thor (like the one where the celestials or Mangog hurt Odin his papa) could kill Hulk easily.I read as far as "Thor always holds back, especially against Hulk." That sent up all the red flags that I was trying to debate with a jobber with a one-size fits all debate. All that combo to ko crap. Like Thor would hold back against a guy that has beaten Hercules and Gladiator almost to death. Both of them had their asses saved by outside intereference. And, of course, Thor has admitted that Hercules is a slightly better fighter than himself. Now I'm not saying Hulk is a better fighter than Thor. But if Hulk can batter a rival of Thor's, and by Thor's own admission Hulk is stronger than him, there's no logical reason why Thor would hold back all the time and in every single fight they've ever had, nor did Thor even say anything like that. The fact is, they didn't elaborate. Thor could've just as well meant he knows Hulk is not always to blame. But Thor is certainly not holding back when he hollars sh*t like "I will defeat thee!", and then can't defeat him.
Rulk is different. He is no friend of Thor, Hulk is.And, of course, Red Hulk, whom Thor swore to kill, kicked the sh*t out of Thor, and apparently even had ample opportunity and power to kill him. Why would Thor hold back against a Hulk he intends to kill? Or hold back against a Hulk that is not really as powerful as the Green Hulk? And Thor got his nuts stomped in. So if we're gonna get lame about this, I have no beef about using the stomping Thor got from Red Hulk. So, Red Hulk stomped Thor just as easily as he stomped Hulk. And later, Thor and Hulk got their's back by owning Red Hulk. Seems Thor and Hulk are pretty even on the tier chart. Except Hulk's stronger and Thor has more power.
Well you can't just go by comics over real life when it suits you. Or go by real life over comics when it suits you.In any case, I'm not gonna keep debating with someone who is too stuck on their own understanding of things and unwilling to accept that they may be wrong. I'm stubborn as all Hell but even I accept the facts once in a while.
Good luck with the combo to ko crap. No one's gonna take your sh*t seriously if you keep doing that.
THE END!!
If you go by comics then there are plenty of examples of the combo to ko principle. If Hulk can't be comboed to ko then he could never lose. Do you agree?
If you go by real life then it is harder to combo to ko but there still are plenty of examples though (but more in comics though).
So are you going by real life logic or comic logic?
Originally posted by h1a8More proof you haven't read any comics when these two throw down.
Since we all know that Thor will fight up close (in his character to be a warrior) then Hulk's only chance is for Thor to take it easy enough for Hulk to get mad enough so that he is more durable and hits harder to easily ko Thor.A normal minded Thor loses
A serious Thor wins
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Thor ftw. He's strong and tough enough to give Hulk a good toe-to-toe fight, and his magic gives him unimaginable power and versatility.
Originally posted by h1a8👆 during the annual we saw what happens when he doesn't just slug it out 😉
Since we all know that Thor will fight up close (in his character to be a warrior) then Hulk's only chance is for Thor to take it easy enough for Hulk to get mad enough so that he is more durable and hits harder to easily ko Thor.A normal minded Thor loses
A serious Thor wins
Originally posted by Devron87And we saw what Thor did to the Thing and Hulk with one arm and one eye..... H2H no Mjolnir Killed them
and we saw what happens when an warrior-madness thor (stated in the comics) attempts to kill the young-Maestro Hulk in Hulk #440,nothing..................
so it Depends,the Hulk incarnation................
strongest incarnation vs weaker incarnation?.........
an alternative reality story with the strongest thor incarnation as Rune King Thor mastery the runes who kill an average hulk and thing version with eye-beam,what is so special?the guy is at skyfather level !
come-on man,i talk about classic thor....................
Originally posted by Devron87
strongest incarnation vs weaker incarnation?.........
an alternative reality story with the strongest thor incarnation as Rune King Thor mastery the runes who kill an average hulk and thing version with eye-beam,what is so special?the guy is at skyfather level !come-on man,i talk about classic thor....................
IIRC, Dr. Strange placed this thingy on Thor which removed the odin force from him or something like that. after which one-eyed and one handed thor killed thing and hulk. or i could be wrong. 😛
edit: even if i'm wrong, its just king thor and not rkt
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
IIRC, Dr. Strange placed this thingy on Thor which removed the odin force from him or something like that. after which one-eyed and one handed thor killed thing and hulk. or i could be wrong. 😛edit: even if i'm wrong, its just king thor and not rkt
Correct it was King Thor the amulet cut off the Odinforce from Thor reverting back to his classic levels...granted thor was pissed off at this point
Originally posted by Devron87Yeah, anyone who says Thor can easily beat Hulk when he gets serious doesn't read too many comics when these two decide to throw down.
and we saw what happens when an warrior-madness thor (stated in the comics) attempts to kill the young-Maestro Hulk in Hulk #440,nothing..................
so it Depends,the Hulk incarnation................
Originally posted by Kris BlazeThe only time I saw a Thor writer give Thor the nod over the Hulk is a feat which only applied to Thor and not the Hulk. For the most part no matter who is writing this they stalemate. If Thor went balls to the wall without just slamming his hammer into the Hulk's head most if not all people give thor the nod.
Anyone who thinks that the Hulk stands a chance here seems to think that the intent of ignorant Hulk writers overrides the KMC rules.It does not 😐
It's not in character though for Thor to pull out his most devastating attacks against the Hulk.
Originally posted by MshinuYes, he goes about taking him on all wrong. But to Thor's credit he is matching him with these powers such as healing ability, growing strength it's a testament to both characters. Thor lives for combat so it is a good workout in the end.
It is almost like Thor enjoys fighting the Hulk too much to end it.. why else would he stalemate him for hours alowing greenskin go grow stronger by the minute?
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Anyone who thinks that the Hulk stands a chance here seems to think that the intent of ignorant Hulk writers overrides the KMC rules.It does not 😐
Originally posted by quanchi112
The only time I saw a Thor writer give Thor the nod over the Hulk is a feat which only applied to Thor and not the Hulk. For the most part no matter who is writing this they stalemate. If Thor went balls to the wall without just slamming his hammer into the Hulk's head most if not all people give thor the nod.It's not in character though for Thor to pull out his most devastating attacks against the Hulk.