Originally posted by Accel
It's stated in each strength scan that his strength is unlimited. People are confusing "unlimited" with "infinite." Hulk can't have [B]infinite strength, because that's impossible. He CAN, however, keep amping his strength as long as he is fighting, even if he is fighting for an eternity, so his strength has no limits, thus it is unlimited.Hulk's strength may not have a limit, but it has to start somewhere (where exactly is unknown). I mean, even Juggernaut doesn't have infinite stoppability apparently, as he only has 1% of Cyttorak's power and he's been stopped by the God Blast.
You say gamma radiation has a limit. What are you basing this off of exactly? Real life science? Sorry, that doesn't cut it. If real life science applied to comic books, than Banner would get cancer or some distorted tumor rather than turn into a monster after being infected with gamma radiation.
You also say Hulk hit his limit in his Mindless state. Sorry, but you have nothing to back it up other than, "he hit his limit with rage." I already proved Hulk doesn't need to keep getting angrier in order to get stronger. For the sake of argument, let's say his rage DID in fact hit its peak. He can still continually get stronger as he continues fighting and as long as he stays mad. Mindless Hulk didn't even hit any sort of limit when fighting Onslaught (notice how he neither calms down nor does he stop getting stronger), so you have nothing to back up the statement that that was his full potential.
The exact same thing can be said about his durability. His durability has been shown to increase the longer a fight lasts and as it comes from the same source as his unlimited strength, it too is unlimited. It's if his durability was infinite that he wouldn't be knocked out. Even so, Hulk has some insane durability feats. Here he is withstanding a universe-destroying blast at it very center and redirecting it with a thunderclap.
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Here he is running through Vector’s full-out TK, which has “whipped away worlds!”
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Here he is, taking blows from the Super-Adaptoid, which has the combined might of 100 heroes, as well as the powers of the Avengers, which would be include Thor and Hercules.
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You may believe the statements of the scientists claiming Hulk's strength to just be mortal hyperbole, but you can't deny that Beyonder hismelf also stated so when he analzed Hulk with his cosmic power. That showing is solid evidence that his strength has no limits.
Again, about his stamina, you have to realize that it also comes from the same source as his strength and durability. Check out page 24 the "Avengers Ultimate Guide;" in that it states, "The Hulk never tires. the longer a battle lasts, the stronger he becomes." That's straight from Marvel so like or not, it can't be denied. There was also Prof. Hulk stating that as long as the Hulk is angry, he can keep fighting. It's there as cold, hard proof.
I'm not going to say that, because Hulk can amp his strength with no bounds or limits that he can beat up cosmic gods like Galactus or the Living Tribunal. However, if either these beings have a limit to their physical strength, than Hulk can surpass them strength-wise. It doesn't really matter what their statuses in the universe are. [/B]
So like you said, Hulks strength increases with his rage, and rage has a limit. I have already given you the example of how when your mind is completely suppressed with one emotion and that emotion is rage than it has a limit. For example every person attributes increase when there enraged and there adrenalin increases, but that doesn't mean they have unlimited strength and durability. Why?, because your rage and adrenalin lv's have limits, if they didn't any time you or I got angry enough we could pick up cars and punch wholes through brick walls.
Juggernaut was standing still when he got hit the god blast, so he wasn't stopped. He was however pushed back, and the ground collapsed beneath them when he tried to form a defense.
Logically any earth bound science should have a limit, and thus far this has proved to be true.
Mindless Hulk was Savage Hulk's peak simply because there is no way Savage Hulk can get to Mindless Hulk without outside help. His brain restrains him from reaching the lv of being mindlessly enraged. I dont understand how you can become anymore mindlessly enraged that mindlessly enraged? Thus far it hasn't been stated that Hulks brain is any different than any normal humans brain, and our brains have a limit to rage and adrenalin.
Marvel has never stated that Hulk has unlimited durability in a comic or a handbook so I can't take that as truth. His strength may grow, but that doesn't mean he has unlimited durability. You said that his durability comes from the same place as his strength? i've yet to see Marvel say or display this in a comic. If his durability was unlimited than like Juggernaut he couldn't be ko'd, but we have both seen Hulk get ko'd numerous times. Hulk may have some great durability feats, but that doesn't make his durability unlimited.
I didn't see the part in that scan where it says that was a universe destroying blast.
Beyonder did say Hulk's strength had no known limits but as I have stated, many different writers have different depictions of a character. Some writer claimed that Thor had unlimited strength, does that make it true?
The Hulk Ultimate guide may say he doesn't tire, but his comic feats show otherwise, and the most recent Marvel Handbook(Which is before the Planet Hulk arc) states otherwise.
