Beast vs Wolverine

Started by OneDumbG035 pages

Originally posted by Omega Vision
IIRC the record for punches per second IRL is 8 or 9.

Is it really that insane to think Peak Humans can double that? ermm

Fully cocked and chambered punches? Or speed-bag style punches? Because srankmissingnin is referring to the former, not the latter if you read his original post.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Fully cocked and chambered punches? Or speed-bag style punches? Because srankmissingnin is referring to the former, not the latter if you read his original post.

Ahh, well that does change things a bit.

I still think its conceivable that Batman could pull it off, he's done crazier things.

^ What? Like throwing 25 kicks in a single second?

Also being able to throw a punch in .038 seconds wouldn't translate into 25 punches per second, since you would also need to factor in the time it takes for Wolverine to draw back in his extended arm after each punch. With that variable in mind it wouldn't work out to 25 punches per second. It think we are probably looking at around 12-15 punches per second.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Fully cocked and chambered punches? Or speed-bag style punches? Because srankmissingnin is referring to the former, not the latter if you read his original post.
you know such questions will go unanswered 😠

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
you know such questions will go unanswered 😠

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Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
you know such questions will go unanswered 😠

It was a rhetorical question, he was obviously refering to speed-bag style punches.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Also being able to throw a punch in .038 seconds wouldn't translate into 25 punches per second, since you would also need to factor in the time it takes for Wolverine to draw back in his extended arm after each punch. With that variable in mind it wouldn't work out to 25 punches per second. It think we are probably looking at around 12-15 punches per second.
If he were only punching with only his right arm, yeah. But it's different if he is throwing punches with both arms. In the time he throws a left punch, he will cock back his right arm and as he throws his right punch, he will cock back his left arm.

So basically, you believe Wolverine can throw 25 punches a second and Batman and Daredevil throw 20 punches a second.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If he were only punching with only his right arm, yeah. But it's different if he is throwing punches with both arms. In the time he throws a left punch, he will cock back his right arm and as he throws his right punch, he will cock back his left arm.

So basically, you believe Wolverine can throw 25 punches a second and Batman and Daredevil throw 20 punches a second.

I don't know if Batman or DD could actually pull it off due to muscle fatigue and slow down, but on paper 20 punches per second (especial if they are double fisting it) isn't totally unlikely.

It takes me a little less than a second to throw a punch with my right hand, and I could easily do two a second if we are counting both hands. You don't think Wolverine is 10 times faster than I am?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't know if Batman or DD could actually pull it off due to muscle fatigue and slow down, but on paper 20 punches per second (especial if they are double fisting it) isn't totally unlikely.

It takes me a little less than a second to throw a punch with my right hand, and I could easily do two a second if we are counting both hands. You don't think Wolverine is 10 times faster than I am?

no. he has adamantium weight. he barely beats you by 1 or 2 punches

Originally posted by jinzin
yyyyeah or you don't know crap about Wolverine and tend to over estimate Beast's abilities... ahem class 100 strength anyone? lulz!
. I know that wolverine is not stronger than beast that's what I do know about wolverine. Beast was once known to be class 100 was what I said. I didn't say he was class 100... I know that generally beast in simian form is class 10 so stop puttin words in my mouth punk!

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't know if Batman or DD could actually pull it off due to muscle fatigue and slow down, but on paper 20 punches per second (especial if they are double fisting it) isn't totally unlikely.

It takes me a little less than a second to throw a punch with my right hand, and I could easily do two a second if we are counting both hands. You don't think Wolverine is 10 times faster than I am?

I could throw two punches in one second as well. Your liberal use of the phrase "ten times faster" is shallow though. And I know why you keep turning to this over and over again.

To illustrate: I could run the 100 meter dash in close to 11 seconds back in high school. Usain Bolt can run it in just under 10 seconds. Do I consider Usain Bolt to be "only .1 times faster" than me? Of course not. When I think Usain Bolt, I think the guy is "twice as fast" as I am or "three/ten times as fast" as me. Just because I think Usain Bolt is "twice as fast" as I am though, doesn't mean he's running the 100 meter dash in 5.5 seconds.

You're attempting to conflate the colloquial sense of the term, "faster," with the mathematically accurate sense of the term. And it's transparent. Your question is a red herring.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
To illustrate: I could run the 100 meter dash in close to 11 seconds back in high school. Usain Bolt can run it in just under 10 seconds.

What exactly is your PB (FAT of course)?

I'm sorry... as much as I like Wolverine, he isn't throwing 25 punches in a second.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqCAGCHdWjE

Well, if a real-life human can throw 5 hooks in a second it isnt hard to believe that Logan can throw 20.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm sorry... as much as I like Wolverine, he isn't throwing 25 punches in a second.

Are you cereals?

You do know that by saying this, you are no longer in the elite Wolverine fanboy group?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
figure, as usual with people like him the context is always left out because it displays a very different story then whats being told by mister pee.
. When I said the beast beating juggs I wasn't talking about the one where he grew old that shit happened in the 70s. I'm talkin about the who stopped the juggernaut comic which happened the 90s where beast stopped his ass again. No white hairs in that mr. Dum dum!

Originally posted by Placidity
Are you cereals?

You do know that by saying this, you are no longer in the elite Wolverine fanboy group?


Sounds like to me he's just being real and not bias like these other fanboys in here.

Originally posted by SamZED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqCAGCHdWjE

Well, if a real-life human can throw 5 hooks in a second it isnt hard to believe that Logan can throw 20.

Hooks thrown from the elbow are fully chambered and extended punches now? Punches thrown from the shoulder and hip are far different from those thrown from the elbow.

Originally posted by SamZED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqCAGCHdWjE

Well, if a real-life human can throw 5 hooks in a second it isnt hard to believe that Logan can throw 20.

I'm one of those types of peeps that believe in on panel showings... if a character never shown this in a comic, I am not going to say that they could. That's why I don't go on a spree saying gladiator would punch Hulk or Thor a hundred times before they moved a muscle. Sure... these characters have super speed but 20 punches a second? That's a lot.

I just disagree with made up stuff that happens on kmc like Gladiator, Surfer or Hyperion fighting a light speed when they don't have one comic showing that they are capable of doing this. Flying through space and fighting at such speeds are two different things so again, Wolverine isn't punching someone 20 times imo if he doesn't have the feats.