Originally posted by King Castle
do you know what a haymaker is?you referenced the speed blitz punching stating logan cant do them when in comics he stabs at incredible speeds enough to make those real life blitz punches deadly.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawnlol so what? those are combat blows. the 0.038 second estimate made no mention of haymakers. besides it refers to a single blow, not a stream of them.
😆 hes throwing his blows FROM LESS THAN A FOOT 😆
yea thats definitely a technique you couldn't use in any fight LOLi was talking about wolverine cocking his arm back, and fully extending his arm
Originally posted by King Castle
where are the mods?so how fast do guys think logan moved here and how many attacks was did he throw?
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2959/wolverine40pe3.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7945/wolverine41gz4.jpg
From the looks of the first pic, roughly 6 hits in one second.
Originally posted by King Castle
especially when he is blocking, parrying and clawing at superhuman lvl too fast to be seen by humans and being nothing but a blur and psylocke unable to get a telepathic lock while in front of him.blur lvl fighting
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/Fights/UncannyX-Men21310vsSabretooth.jpghand movement speed for logan
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29885/751432-loganspeed2os6_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29885/751433-loganspeedvm5_super.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29885/751029-azraelshogun7vy3_super.jpg
^ Everybody cares! But you're right. For whatever reason, it's just talking past each other at this point. Half the people are talking fully chambered, extended haymaker punches. Since that was the original premise.
The other half are posting vids of quick jabs/wu-shu chain style striking. It's a meaningless circle at this point. Actual conversation died at the end of page 14.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
a lot of these arnt even strength feats.Can I get the issue and titles of these scans. Some look to be ulternate realities and others clearly look like they take place during the time beast was amped.
It's all 616 Beast, and none are from his brief strength-amped period either.
I would have thought stunning Colossus was the most impressive feat here.
And these are taken from Beast's very limited number feats, which isn't bad really. Wolverine has 1000 times more feats and appearances, but we've never seen him throw a car, or hit the ground hard enough to cause a shock wave. The reason? He's not supposed to be strong enough!
Originally posted by 753less a foot 😆 not even extending your arm ok then
lol so what? those are combat blows. the 0.038 second estimate made no mention of haymakers. besides it refers to a single blow, not a stream of them.
DAMN im faster than wolverine 😆
also he said 25 punches in .038 secs... read the pages dude
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
😆 hes throwing his blows FROM LESS THAN A FOOT 😆
yea thats definitely a technique you couldn't use in any fight LOLi was talking about wolverine cocking his arm back, and fully extending his arm
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
again... hes not cocking and fully extending his arm
jab?
Originally posted by 0mega Spawnthose were a foot long and, more importantly, are actual combat blows. srank never mentioned a string of blows but a single one reaching maximum extension, he didnt even mention retireving his arm back into place to land another.the first blow dealt by the guy in the second video came from a resting position and probably did not take more than 0,1 second.
less a foot 😆 not even extending your arm ok then
i can throw 13 per second
with small hand movements from less than 2inchs away from my target
😆 no he didn't, read the pages dude
also he said 25 punches in .038 secs... read the pages dude
Originally posted by 753😕
those were a foot long and, more importantly, are actual combat blows. srank never mentioned a string of blows but a single one reaching maximum extension, he didnt even mention retireving his arm back into place to land another.the first blow dealt by the guy in the second video came from a resting position and probably did not take more than 0,1 second.😆 no he didn't, read the pages dude
There are martial artists who can strike around 14 hits a second. Youtube it you can see this blur of a kung-fu artists fists. They aren't full punches, they are nerve strikes mainly but the point is Logan should easily be able to throw 25 punches a second. His fists would temporarily look like the wings of a humming bird though but this is a feat I would expect any of marvel's top martial artists to at least approach if not match.
If you want to get an idea of how fast this really is..youtube Mike Mangini - they guy can drum at around 22 strokes a second single stroke for a minute straight. For five seconds, he can probably hit around 25 strokes a second for 5-10 seconds. Sounds like a damn humming bird too....so if a normal human can drum that fast with alternating strokes...can a super soldier with a lifetime of training in marvel martial arts (which is 1000 times greater than real life martial arts), and naturally enhanced speed via healing factor and mutation in general strike at 25 hits per second? I think so.
I would VERY suprised if Elektra, Cap, and the like are not approaching this combat speed themselves.
As far as who would actually win? Well, both characters at their best...Wolverine one-shots him so long as he strikes first...if Beast manages to strike first it might take Logan as much as 10 seconds.
Who would win a fight between normal Beast and a slightly faster Beast with his strength reduced to class 2, but in place of his strength has been given Captain America level fighting skill, a healing factor that allows him to shrug of blows from the Hulk and two six inch combat knives that can't be disarmed.
Because that is essentially the fight.
