Beast vs Wolverine

What made me respond to you? After you declared in your first sentence of this post that I was off-point and my straw-man response was wholly unneccessary? How bout the underlined second sentence immediately following it:

Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah, I didn't say Wolverine could throw 25 punches in a single second....

But, given his on panel speed feats I wouldn't think it's a stretch.

So you can shove your nonsense up your ass for all care.

Wolverine can throw one punch in .038 seconds. It's all Srank said and It's a better speed feat than Beast has to his name, regardless of whatever red herring bullshit argument you want to start here so you can cling to your sad superiority complex.

This was even before you started flaming me in the third and fourth sentences. Way to really punctuate your intention that I should not be responding to you anymore by insulting me personally.

You actually had an opinion! The same way srankmissingnin did! It was the topic we were all discussing! Why wouldn't I think to respond to your underlined opinion, disagree with it, and provide my reasoning why? Because that's all I did. And I didn't even flame you in my response.

And what exactly justified all the cursing and insults and innuendos even if I did straw-man your position? This projection of an imaginary vendetta I have against you? Why would I ever have a vendetta against you? You don't matter. At all. You basically said the same thing Omega Vision was saying and I responded in kind to him. Do I have a vendetta against him?

Seriously. You went off the deep-end. And for what?

It stops now. Either put each other on ignore, or drop it.

It's either that or I close the thread and put notes in profiles.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What made me respond to you? After you declared in your first sentence of this post that I was off-point and my straw-man response was wholly unneccessary? How bout the underlined second sentence immediately following it: So yeah, considering your back-handed assertion that, Wolvie throwing 25 punches wasn't actually unreasonable, I thought I might actually talk about why I DON'T think it's reasonable. I'm not saying that was a velvet-laced open invitation to discuss the topic anymore with you, but I didn't exactly interpret that second sentence to mean, "BTW, I have no opinion on this and wish not to discuss it further. Do NOT address me this."

This was even before you started flaming me in the third and fourth sentences. Way to really punctuate your intention that I should not be responding to you anymore by insulting me personally.

You actually had an opinion! The same way srankmissingnin did! It was the topic we were all discussing! Why wouldn't I think to respond to your underlined opinion, disagree with it, and provide my reasoning why? Because that's all I did. And I didn't even flame you in my response.

And what exactly justified all the cursing and insults and innuendos even if I did straw-man your position? This projection of an imaginary vendetta I have against you? Why would I ever have a vendetta against you? You don't matter. At all. You basically said the same thing Omega Vision was saying and I responded in kind to him. Do I have a vendetta against him?

Seriously. You went off the deep-end. And for what?

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Okay, are you smoking something tonight? Under some sort of influence?
Because I KNOW you're not this dense.

What made you respond to me INITIALLY? Y'know, before I began addressing you... considering that I WASN'T addressing you to begin with...?

This isn't some trick I'm trying to catch you with, nor is it too complicated to understand. I shouldn't have to specify this much just to keep your backtracking nonsense at bay but since you insist...

WHY DID YOU REPLY TO MY RESPONSE TO OMEGA VISION?
And....
WHAT IN THE HELL made you respond to me the way you did?
What made you respond to ME at all?
Why would you imply/assume my position/s on the matter?
Why would you undermine me while doing so?

And NO, you did NOT respond to OmegaVision in kind.
For one: You didn't respond to him until he quoted you directly.
Two: You didn't assume his arguments, and instead allowed him to reply after clarifying your context.
Three: You actually didn't respond to the post I supported AT ALL.
and Four: If you HAD responded to him in kind you would have been stamping down sarcastic smilie faces in response to assuming that he supports that Wolverine can fire off 25 completely chambered punches in a second.

The way in which you responded to him and I are COMPLETELY different and pretty much paint the picture of exactly what is going on between us. And you still want to pretend otherwise? lol okay. But I'm the rivisionist. Like I said dude, you're a riot sometimes.

Also as I said, you're a fantastic martyr. We need to get you a holiday.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It stops now. Either put each other on ignore, or drop it.

It's either that or I close the thread and put notes in profiles.

Wat does putting notes in profiles mean?

You know what Pr, I haz an idea, we (i.e you) could make a 'Vs Forum' dedicated to Wolverine, so we won't have to see that crap here. You know its a good idea... 😄

Heck, make one for Hulk too!

he can throw a punch in 0.038 seconds from resting position, if he takes another 0.038 seconds to retrieve his arm into position to throw another punch, this would come down to 12 or 13 punches. but this just one arm, so it comes to 25 punches total which does seem off for a character like logan.

But check this out.

YouTube video

wolverine being 3,5 times faster than a competent real world martial artists isn't all that far-fetched. Based on that video, I'd believe batman can throw 15 punches or more in a second.

PnrR3epV5AM&feature=related this guy can throw an average of 9/second. so logan would only be 160% faster him. sounds fair.

Throwing punches like that in combat doesn't work. You would never fire that many on an opponent who's trying to fight back unless you had already knocked him out. Demonstration punches are just that, demonstration's.

Originally posted by Anthol
Throwing punches like that in combat doesn't work. You would never fire that many on an opponent who's trying to fight back unless you had already knocked him out. Demonstration punches are just that, demonstration's.

Originally posted by 753
well, maybe that's true, but it has nothing to do witht the discussion here and they would work for logan who has class 1 strengh and adamantium fists.

Originally posted by Anthol
I'm a huge fan of martial arts/MMA and basically anything combat sports wise. Logan isn't gonna be throwing 25 hit's a second on a moving opponent who is generally gonna be someone who can hold their own combat wise. Hell he isn't even gonna do it on cannon fodder, and he definitely isn't going to do it against beast. Basically all I'm saying is it's an irreverent argument.

Originally posted by 753
its combat application is limited yes. but we're arguing whether or not he has the speed to do it.

Originally posted by Anthol
Kind of off topic though....

Originally posted by 753
not really. its a discussion about a characters reaction time

Originally posted by Anthol
This is Beast vs Wolverine. Not theories on wolverine's reaction time pertaining to how many punches he can throw while not fighting.

Originally posted by 753
he can throw a punch in 0.038 seconds from resting position, if he takes another 0.038 seconds to retrieve his arm into position to throw another punch, this would come down to 12 or 13 punches. but this just one arm, so it comes to 25 punches total which does seem off for a character like logan.

But check this out.

YouTube video

wolverine being 3,5 times faster than a competent real world martial artists isn't all that far-fetched. Based on that video, I'd believe batman can throw 15 punches or more in a second.

i was talking about wolverine cocking his arm back, and fully extending his arm

Originally posted by 753
PnrR3epV5AM&feature=related this guy can throw an average of 9/second. so logan would only be 160% faster him. sounds fair.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm busy with a project I left until the last minute, but OneDumb and I were talking about fully extended "haymaker" punches, not quick jabs and wu-shu chain punching.

Originally posted by Anthol
Throwing punches like that in combat doesn't work. You would never fire that many on an opponent who's trying to fight back unless you had already knocked him out. Demonstration punches are just that, demonstration's.

Originally posted by King Castle
it works for logan b/c his claws makes those attacks deadly and he has superior hand reaction then majority of peak or superhuman's due to his powerset

^ Turn on X-Men 2 on your DVD player and set it fast-forward times 5 and then you'll see.