Im not saying THing is going to beat ST with one punch...but i dont think ST is capable of going toe to toe with Thing...especiailly without an adamantium skelaton. Without the Adamantium, ST would just get his arms ripped off! With Adamatium at least ST would be able to hurt Thing. But scratching the Thing with his nails like a little girl? ST would eventually heal from any Damage the Thing caused, but he will long be KO'd before the THing goes down.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Killpower is not a class 100 strong guy...the Hulk made him look like a clown...He does not have the capabilities of the Thing. Wenidgo is the only person of any value that Sabretooth has taken on. Ive also seen him get KO'd by a kick from the Beast! NOT IMPRESSED!
oh yes, when he was in the x-mansion training...when he was bound by restraints and kept on sedatives to keep him off his game....when he was so messed up that gambit came in and beat him with ease.....yes that's such a fine example of his capabilities especially considering his new power-ups......🙄
but yeah i guess killpower was able to stalemate herc in an arm wrestling match because he doesn't even come close to herc's strength level huh 🙄
I guess he was able to take multiple shots from hulk to the face because he's so weak....I suppose his supervisor was actually surprised that HULK knocked him out because killpowers only able to lift slightly more than a peak human 🙄 well according to you at least....doh
killpower took a few shots to the face from the Hulk....yea elaborate a little more...what did he do then? Oh yes...lost consciousness and fell down. Killpower has genetic recombination of a Gorilla enhancing his stength. I dont know why a writer had him stalemate Herc in arm wrestling, but he is no herc, and no Grimm, when it comes to strength. Sabretooth has some impressive accomplishments. Do u know any of the THing's accomplishments, asside from his appearance in Wolverine? I think his are much more impressive than Sabretooth's.
yeah I know a lot of things freaking feats...unfortunately standing up to adamantium claws unscathed isn't one of them....
again killpower stalemated herc...get over it.....it was a surprise that hulk KOed him....get over it......
and as far as feats are concerned....
"When someone argues that they have seen evidence of something but that the evidence doesn't count because that character "shouldn't be able to do that" they need to re-think the premise of thier conclusion. A characters abilities are based on what he or she demonstrates he or she can do, not on what someone thought they could do at one time.
Could u elaborate on what u know the Thing is capable of please? that wasnt very convincing.
Oh so it was inconsistent for Killpower to not stand a chance against professor Hulk, but it was well written when he stalemated hercules? How convenient when your argument is pro ST. Sabretooth isnt sh!t to the people the Thing has taken on and beaten. He may be harmed by Adamantium claws, but ST can be harmed by the Thing as well...And the Thing is known for going longer than ST when it comes to resilience.
(sigh) so I have to "prove" myself again? this is just ****ing rediculous.... thing's held his own against the hulk on nearly 10 or so occasions...he's even managed to defeat him once... he went toe to toe with champion of the universe and gave him a hell of a fight...one of the most impressive, and champ was laying out super heros left and right....after four or five times, champ began to realize pounding away at benn was worthless because he just would not stay down.... he held his own against the gladiator and was even able to pull one out over the silver surfer....on top of that him and his team had to face off against countless cosmic threats and even a super ermpowered doctor doom...that just speaks for itself.... benns generally stated to be somewhere in the class 85 to upper 80's range, but under extreme conditions has been able to show more strength...he had a mutation back in the (i think) early 80's and flat out humiliated the hulk...then beat something like 30 some super villains before finally reverting back to his previous form and getting unexpectedly smacked down by juggy.... he won beyonder's free-for-all...and during the course of secret wars knocked out half a dozen super-people with a thunderclap....it's been stated that his stamina should last approximately 1 or 2 hours before heavy lactic acids build up...but he has shown the ability to go on for about a day without any sign of serious fatigue.... his fighting ability is pretty high, he used to be a military pilot and even had a couple encounters with logan in his agent days...his fighting skills on battle savvy are what allows him to take it to the hulk consistantly....his speed and reflexes have not been hindered by his mutation but increased instead, he doesn't have a healing factor per-say but his ability to heal himself is far beyond the scope of human capabilities...hence how his face recovered from his disfigurment....
now back to our argument....hey man I'm just stating what has ****ing happened...nothing else! All I'm saying is killpower has shown both the strength and the duability that all class 100 characters should have, his feats back this up..... I said that he's as strong as herc and that hulk KOing him with a barrage of punches was surprising to the little guy that was watchin over killpower at the time....where you got "hulk KOing killpower is inconsistant" from, I have no idea.... you know as well as I do, that on hercs level he's just as capible of getting KOed by the hulk as he is without class 100 strength.. hell hulk's ran through herc while simultaniously fighting the entirety of the avengers....why would I think that it's inconsistant that he'd do the same to killpower? 😕...oh that's right I WOULDN'T! stop putting words into my mouth cause your own aren't affording you anything here.... the fact is killpower's demonstrated on multiple occasions to be at the level that I said and you really don't have anything to the contrary rather than a bunch of "nu-uh" arguments....like I said...get over it....
resilience...thing can last what? a day? wolverine fought sabretooth for an entire day before....wolverine's fought a battle that lasted 17 hours before.....sabretooth is his physical superior in every way...what does that tell you?
as far as inflicting damage or pain? Thing can inflict a lot of pain...sabretooth is accustomed to pain...he's even stated to get a kick out of it.....as far as bone sabes...the guy went in a punch for punch slugfest with mrs. marvel and was winning...HE WAS WINNING! even without adamantium and limited superstrength, he has incredible stamina and durability to allow him to maintain while she began to wear down.................now why can spiderman take class 100 punches without dying? because his enhanced physiology allows it due to super strength....sabretooth is now at spiderman's strength level....his strength wih up grades has increased 2 to 3 times.....it's safe to reason that his durability would too.....that given.....he would more than likely take thing hits just fine without his adamantium...with it....thing isn't doing anything to him with mere punches......he can cause pain...he can hold sabes back at best....but in the end all sabes needs is one good strike.....and he doesn't even need to make it a vital one....if thing grabs him, sabes can claw his wrists and his hands become useless....if thing hits him...the same....sabretooth can completely immobilize him and then kill him if he wants to....but having enhanced reflexes, superhuman speed which puts him at the very least on par with thing....at the very least.....and then giving him upgrades to boost those....while being a better fighter as well....thing's most likely gonna get hit in the face....a lot....sabretooth doesn't even need to hit him a lot...thing's durability may help him absorb blows...but like venom, where brute force doesn't exactly work, sharp objects should do the trick just fine....he doesn't have that rocky hide inside...his insides are still open to exploitation....so are sabes...but lets face it..wolverine fought hulk and had his muscles turned to jelly...they reformed before hulk landed the next blow.....sabretooth now has super strength to whether such blows and a faster acting healing factor......nothing grimm does can put him down long enough to claim any kind of victory.....while thing can't say the same about sabretooth...like I said his best shot is a lucky KO...sabretooth doesn't need luck to win this fight....
Thing possess average reflexes.Sabretooth possess superhuman reflexes, speed and reaction time.He can keep up with Spider-Man.He outclassess Logan.He's sufficiently strong to make his adamantium claws a major threat to the Thing.He can just sneak up on him and cut away his eyes, or slash his rocky skin until the rock side is sufficiently damaged he can start to stab the Thing's flesh.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Thing possess average reflexes.Sabretooth possess superhuman reflexes, speed and reaction time.He can keep up with Spider-Man.He outclassess Logan.He's sufficiently strong to make his adamantium claws a major threat to the Thing.He can just sneak up on him and cut away his eyes, or slash his rocky skin until the rock side is sufficiently damaged he can start to stab the Thing's flesh.
Thing possesses Superhuman reflexes, and is just as good a fighter as Sabertooth is, not to mention that he's about 30-40 times stronger. Sabertooth would get pounded.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Thing possesses Superhuman reflexes, and is just as good a fighter as Sabertooth is, not to mention that he's about 30-40 times stronger. Sabertooth would get pounded.