the most powerful x-WOMAN

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Originally posted by FieryBalrog
Ah, but HCT is come and gone. In this future... they might get run over by wild horses. 😎

But hopefully not. I love the Cuckoos.

Hahaha horses, that's good, but I love them too 😆 I can't wait for what's in store for them!

if we go by natural abilities it's Storm if we say Rachel channels the Phoenix then it's obviously Rachel

Rachel is described as having unlimited TP and TK without the Phoenix. As I've stated time and time again Storm has limits, while Rachel doesn't.

I remember reading an Excalibur where she has natural telepathy and telekinesis and her own mutant ability to project an astral form through time, however her natural talents were nowhere near Phoenix levels till the Phoenix entered her if I recall. Her description may have been revamped since then though.

BTW I know Storm has limits you don't need to convince me of that 😄. W/out the Phoenix has it been proven that Rachel is without limits?

It is part of Rachel's and Jean's power to be able to channel Phoenix.

I mean before she began channeling Phoenix her TP, her TK, her power had limits. Of course it's hard to say because pretty much as long as Rachel's been around she's been channeling Phoenix.

I've wondered if all the parts of the Phoenix are going back to the White Hot Room then won't Rachel progressively lose her power? But maybe I'm misinterpretting.

The most recent Marvel Handbook says in Rachel's bio that she posseses unlimited TP/TK.

With or without the Phoenix?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
With or without the Phoenix?

she hasn't had it in full in years, so I'm guessing "without".

Without. She hasn't had it since her Phoenix LS. She certainly hasn't had it since she's been back.

if she has unlimited tp, she doesn't show it. it took all rachel had to contain storm. rachel even said that if storm had constructed her lightning field fast enough that she would have never gotten to storm. she even had to be very close to storm to do anything tp wise.

Uh...she also thought she was a dinosaur, and changed her body to reflect it. She's obviously not all there right now.

Think about it: how often do uber psis stay around? Phoenix comes and goes, Onslaught was around for a bit, Nate had to die, Cable had to be put down by Surfer (which is incidentally a ridiculous notion). I could go on. The reason is that when you have someone who can control not only anyone's mind, but any number of people's minds, and who can not only move matter, but can manipulate matter down to its very basic constituent parts...that's the scariest kind of person in the world. They're way too powerful and can hardly be used.

yeah, she thought that but nothing about her power-level changed. it still took all she had to contain someone.

Well rachel just turning her self to a dinosaur on a molecular level is impressive. Im not sure if her powerlevels changed or no maybe thinkng she was a dino decreased her abilitys we dont know for sure.

Storm

I get the impression your a fan of storm-am I right. 😉

hi,cosmic flame
you the sentence you said "I'm sure Jean's children are as well."
what do you mean
and jean married who??

Originally posted by coolgirls
hi,cosmic flame
you the sentence you said "I'm sure Jean's children are as well."
what do you mean
and jean married who??

Scott Summers her name is Jean Grey Summers right?

Originally posted by LISA-J
I get the impression your a fan of storm-am I right. 😉

Yup, you sure are.

Originally posted by LeDiableBlanc90
Potentially? Rogue. No contest.

I disagree. Rachel is the most powerful potentially. That is why she is an omega mutant. Her full full potential as a psi is phoenix.

However as for most powerful out of the team id say its out of storm and rachel with rachel having the edge. I prefer storm though lol.

Jean is married to Scott Summers in 616, but they don't have any children in this timeline.

Their "children" include: Rachel, Cable, Nate, Stryfe. All of them are immensely powerful.