Originally posted by cmackYour argument would be true if it weren't for the fact DM is not a skyfather level being.
surfer is not skyfather, dr manhattan is at least skyfather, dr manhattan was always reluctant to use his powers, if he went all out surfer is going down hard
Nor is there any evidence to support him as such.
Originally posted by Newjak
Thor is a GOD. Seriously worst argument ever.Also DM wasn't an actual time Master he just had the unique ability to exist at anytime in his timeline. He had absolutely never demonstrated any power over time or any knowledge of time on anything he was not in contact with.
And at no point was it implied he knew the fate of everything. As he said before and I'll reiterate "We are all puppets I'm just a puppet that can see the strings."
Not to mention Ozymandis already messed with his supposed time based abilities anyway when he introduced Tachyons into the equation. 😬
As to what Surfer can do to harm him.
Surfer has a vast amount of abilities that DM has never encountered before. Such as
Power Absorbtion
Power Negation
Mental attacks
Power Disruption
Plus level of energy control DM has never faced before.
lol "i can see the strings". he exists simltaneously in quantum time. he is AWARE of the future but unable to change it, or havent you been paying attention. he beleives in predetermination PRECICELY because his knowledge goes so far that he himself is aware of what HE is going to do in the future, becoming a prisoner of his own power. the tachyons make it harder for him to keep linked with other incarnations of himself in the future and the past, but it doesnt cut it altogether. also he can instantly teleport himself and other over galactis distance. infact HE doesnt even exist as a bosy, he constituted the body of his will, he has no actual physical or even energetic form at all, he is just existing with the universe. i wud easily put him at a godly{and NOT mythological skyfther type gods} level. surfer is nuthing to him. infact the entire actions of humanity past present and future seemed insignificant to him, hence his isolation and non reaction to events which seemed major on earth like the assasination of kennedy, which he knew wud happen but did nuthing to stop. also, his perfect clairvoyance wud give him complete knowledge of surfer and his powers.
Originally posted by leonheartmmThen Dr. Manhattan would be predestined to lose to Silver Surfer and know it would happen and do nothing to stop it. K.
lol "i can see the strings". he exists simltaneously in quantum time. he is AWARE of the future but unable to change it, or havent you been paying attention. he beleives in predetermination PRECICELY because his knowledge goes so far that he himself is aware of what HE is going to do in the future, becoming a prisoner of his own power. the tachyons make it harder for him to keep linked with other incarnations of himself in the future and the past, but it doesnt cut it altogether. also he can instantly teleport himself and other over galactis distance. infact HE doesnt even exist as a bosy, he constituted the body of his will, he has no actual physical or even energetic form at all, he is just existing with the universe. i wud easily put him at a godly{and NOT mythological skyfther type gods} level. surfer is nuthing to him. infact the entire actions of humanity past present and future seemed insignificant to him, hence his isolation and non reaction to events which seemed major on earth like the assasination of kennedy, which he knew wud happen but did nuthing to stop. also, his perfect clairvoyance wud give him complete knowledge of surfer and his powers.
Originally posted by Ambient
Anyone w/ Cosmic awareness in marvel can see past, present and future but it does not necessarily make them skyfather.. Surfer is among one of them..
At least provide some scans or tell us what issue.
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
😬You're so insistent.
The tachyons actually did NOTHING to him.
From total disintegration, he restored himself as if nothing really happened.
Besides disintegrating him in the first place, the tachyons also interfered with his ability to see the future, which is why he was acting so weird on his way to the machine. So they obviously do affect him.