The Americans are Englands Friends

No what I meant was that , just in talking to my UK friends over the past few months, it seems that many Brits are pissed at the US for what seems to be a bullying of the UK into helping us in the war in Iraq.. I sentiment I have to agree with.. As dumb and ignorant as he is Bush certainly knows how to manipulate things when he wants to...

But now with these bombings I think (tho I dont klnow for sure) that many Brits do blame America for the bombings.. Another thing I happen to agree with... Yes we dont have all of the facts yet but I think its safe to assume that at some point th ebombings will be linked to Islamic terrorists and for that IMO the responsibility for th emore than 50 dead and 700 wounded in London lies squarely on the shoulders of Bush..

I know its quite un - pc to jump to hasty conclusions such as these.. but this is how I feel. If proven wong I will happily apologize for any assumptions I have made...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well probably more your government

Originally posted by whirlysplat
As a Londoner I have no anger towards the americans over this, they planted no bombs please don't speak for people in London mate.

I did not....get the context straight......dammit....you are annoying

Originally posted by whirlysplat
As a Londoner I have no anger towards the americans over this,

nice to know 🙂

That I may be, but, you spoke for us saying we blamed America, I am a Londoner my blother was quarter of a mile away from one of the blasts at the time, we do not blame America for it.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
That I may be, but, you spoke for us saying we blamed America, I am a Londoner my blother was quarter of a mile away from one of the blasts at the time, we do not blame America for it.

I did not say that.....

Originally posted by Lunas#1FAN
bilb: so u r saying the English people are mad at Americans cuz they think WE (americans) caused the bombings?

To that I answered "Well probably more your government " ...which means I think Bilb meant the US government not the US people....

I never said I agree to it or that I don't so please....pretty please don't pretend I meant something I never said......

If you didn't mean it thats cool, its how it came across. Like how it came across over not worrying about human suffering with the A bomb thread. If you mean something different thats cool.
I'm not saying you meant one thing if you meant something else, just don't speak for us.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
As a Londoner I have no anger towards the americans over this, they planted no bombs please don't speak for people in London mate.

And what do you suppose the likelihood would be of the terrorists planting bombs in London had America not used it's "friendship" to drag us into an unjust "war", with our government willingly following?

The terrorists carried out the act, would they have if we didn't go into Iraq? I don't believe so for one second.

Tony Blair painted a bullseye on us when he went along with it. Terrorists are to blame of course, but not solely.

-AC

Originally posted by whirlysplat
If you didn't mean it thats cool, its how it came across. Like how it came across over not worrying about human suffering with the A bomb thread. If you mean something different thats cool.
I'm not saying you meant one thing if you meant something else, just don't speak for us.

Well neither can you speak for "Londoners" in general...but that's a different matter....

as for the A-Bomb tread I think that came across right..:I don't care for human suffering.....

The reasons for the War I do not agree with, was Hussein evil you bet. Blair I do have a problem with his record dealing with terrorists is poor in my opininion he capitulated to the IRA. Do I blame the American people, do I balme Bush and Blair for the bomb? No! they didn't plant it. Terrorism is not as simple as that!

Keep the faith😄

Stay Whirly😄

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well neither can you speak for "Londoners" in general...but that's a different matter....

as for the A-Bomb tread I think that came across right..:I don't care for human suffering.....

You don't care for human suffering. Do you mean "about".

Originally posted by whirlysplat
do I balme Bush and Blair for the bomb? No! they didn't plant it. Terrorism is not as simple as that!

Keep the faith😄

Stay Whirly😄

You believe this attack would have happened even WITHOUT the foolhardy, war-mongering actions of our supposed leaders?

Despite it being well documented that this is retaliation for the invasion?

-AC

I believe Al queda actually have little to do with Iraq. Yes!

9/11 was before Iraq, little evidence links Al queda to Iraq.

So it could well have done.

Yes.

Now if you'll stop rambling and answer my question.

You say you don't blame Bush or Blair, despite them being the ones making us a target. Why?

Just because they didn't physically bomb us? If that's the case, do you believe we would have been bombed even if we didn't invade Iraq with America?

-AC

I think quite possibly yes, as the US were targets of Al Queda prior to the invasion of Iraq and we are their closest ally.

As for Rambling, I don't see two direct statements as rambling.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
You don't care for human suffering. Do you mean "about".

Yes I don't care aboot human suffering....not really.....oh yes and I mean "aboot"

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes I don't care aboot human suffering....not really.....oh yes and I mean "aboot"

I pity you then

Originally posted by whirlysplat
I pity you then

Hmm this is interesting....why.....it safes you from feeling to much pain.....anyways...why?

I pity you not wishing to empathise with your fellow man.