Originally posted by whirlysplat
That I may be, but, you spoke for us saying we blamed America, I am a Londoner my blother was quarter of a mile away from one of the blasts at the time, we do not blame America for it.
no thats not what i meant exactly.. what i meant was that the Brits I have talked to personally seem to blame the US govt.... I never intended to speak for the UK as a whole
Originally posted by whirlysplat
It stops atrocity, or at least limits it. Never forget the lessons of our past pal pot, Auschwitz etc etc
Well ok...although if you don't really care you won't label stuff as atrocities....I mean I care some...Auschwitz was wrong......but that's just a flaw in yxour reasonin.
You say if you don't care atrocities will happen but since someone doesn't care he won't care for atrocities either....
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well ok...although if you don't really care you won't label stuff as atrocities....I mean I care some...Auschwitz was wrong......but that's just a flaw in yxour reasonin.You say if you don't care atrocities will happen but since someone doesn't care he won't care for atrocities either....
Keep the faith😄
Stay Whirly 🤘
Originally posted by whirlysplat
I think quite possibly yes, as the US were targets of Al Queda prior to the invasion of Iraq and we are their closest ally.
Yes.....exactly.
But had we not invaded Iraq, the chances of us getting bombed would have been significantly less. So I can't see why you don't hold Bush and/or Blair partly responsible.
Originally posted by mr.smiley
Possibly.They hate all free people.
Don't confuse Al Qaida with stupid dumb terrorists. They are educated enough to cause coordinated strikes.
So I'm not sure that making it as easy as "They hate all free people" is the best way to go.
I seriously doubt we'd have got attacked if we didn't aid Bush.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes.....exactly.But had we not invaded Iraq, the chances of us getting bombed would have been significantly less. So I can't see why you don't hold Bush and/or Blair partly responsible.
Don't confuse Al Qaida with stupid dumb terrorists. They are educated enough to cause coordinated strikes.
So I'm not sure that making it as easy as "They hate all free people" is the best way to go.
I seriously doubt we'd have got attacked if we didn't aid Bush.
-AC
We were already on the list at the time of 9/11
Originally posted by whirlysplat
and don't friends have common interests😄
Friends aren't supposed to betray each other or lie to each other or keep things from each other when it can help or hurt the other.
Country's are not friends, alliances and treaty's do not make you friends. It makes them realise that they have a common purpose and they will work for it together. But the US or the UK will drop the other faster then something that drops fast if another thing can help them more. Do you honestly think the US would be as happy with the UK if the entire EU would have helped them with everything they did. Or China for that matter? Of course not who cares about the UK if you can have China. Its the same for the UK if they could choose the world or America they would choose the world. More to gain from it, they always choose the side that fits their needs best.
That hardly makes them friends that makes them allies until something better comes up.
Originally posted by Fishy
Friends aren't supposed to betray each other or lie to each other or keep things from each other when it can help or hurt the other.Country's are not friends, alliances and treaty's do not make you friends. It makes them realise that they have a common purpose and they will work for it together. But the US or the UK will drop the other faster then something that drops fast if another thing can help them more. Do you honestly think the US would be as happy with the UK if the entire EU would have helped them with everything they did. Or China for that matter? Of course not who cares about the UK if you can have China. Its the same for the UK if they could choose the world or America they would choose the world. More to gain from it, they always choose the side that fits their needs best.
That hardly makes them friends that makes them allies until something better comes up.
I think its this sort of idea that prevents federal Europe😄
Originally posted by Lana
Not always....it's the same as with individual people. There are TONS of people that will have common interests, but that doesn't make them friends.
I would find it difficult to be friends with someone I have nothing in common with. We share many things, our Language and moral values are the main ones though.
Originally posted by whirlysplat
I would find it difficult to be friends with someone I have nothing in common with. We share many things, our Language and moral values are the main ones though.
You are just Bullshitting here
Sure friends usually have common interests but that doesn't mean
People with common interests are usually friends.....