He goes that intensity around his teammates all the time, he has control of the temperature of his surroundings. He has gotten white hot while standing next to people like Crystal and Lyja and focused his flame to prevent from roasting them. U dont know anything about the torch.
Graviton>Storm
Graviton has brought it to the whole Avengers and at the time that he fought the Torch he was considered more powerful than Magneto. If he cant extinguish an intensly burning Torch than Storm sure as hell cant. And Storm has absolutely no defense from Torch's offense.
the temperature it will take for torch to not be snuffed storm can achieve, and for her not to be able to he will need to be away from teammates. seriously, a fire can be snuffed by taking all the air away from it, and it might have happened to torch before, but combined with everything storm has in her arsenal it will take some serious concentration for him to stay flamed on. and even going by past expierences, storm has taken a torch who was trying to get hotter.
U have no idea what ur talking about. Like i said, the Torch has greatly surpassed the temperatures he was going with Graviton while standing next to his teammates, teammates that were totally vulnerable like Crystal. After Inferno when his powers were elevated to the next level like the Thing, he was Nova perpetually and flying in Space and right through planets. Although he couldnt turn that flame off and was always white hot, he could still control the temperature around him so he didnt burn his friends or home and environment. He has much greater control of his powers than u think. It doesnt take concentration for him to reach nova temperatures. He just does it, his experience is past Storms.
you do realize that naturally crystal wouldn't be affected becaus eshe can also control the temperature of the flame, and she can copntrol the fire itself. and yes, storm has other ways of taking him out, like manipulating his bio-electric field to shut down his heart. he can have his flame on when she does this.
Originally posted by stormfront13
the temperature it will take for torch to not be snuffed storm can achieve, and for her not to be able to he will need to be away from teammates. seriously, a fire can be snuffed by taking all the air away from it, and it might have happened to torch before, but combined with everything storm has in her arsenal it will take some serious concentration for him to stay flamed on. and even going by past expierences, storm has taken a torch who was trying to get hotter.
It will take serious concentration for him to stay flamed on? Yet when I ask...
She has to focus attention on maintaining winds to fly, altering winds to maneuver to avoid Johnny's attacks, she has to snuff out his flame in some way, she has to attack him, she has to locate IW, she has to avoid being attacked by IW whose attacks are also invisible, she has to attack IW and IW can shield herself. She has to do this all simultaneously in order for her to defeat them both. I ask again... what's the likelihood of that occurring?
(Also may I ask, when, to whom and how often does she "manipulate bioelectric fields to shut down hearts"?)
If she does manage to snuff out low intensity flames he can flame on again. She can't snuff out high intensity flames easily. His flame can be snuffed out more permanently by Storm creating a vacuum with her abilities in some way to deprive him of sufficient oxygen, this would take time and Torch is not stationary so he could avoid this, she would have to maintain this vacuum to keep him extinguished. Creating a vacuum in the open air to extinguish high intensity flames against a target in motion while avoiding attacks from that target in motion wouldn't be a walk in the park. If she also has to worry about IW then Storm managing to do this before she is taken down is highly unlikely at best.
Originally posted by Blade CutterOnce AGAIN. . and INVISIBLE Bubble isn't goign to make storm claustrophobic.
Storm will most likely lose to Sue because of Storm claustrophobia. If she gets put in a small bubble she will freak out and not think straight.
It's a sight thing that would make her panic and bnot actually being enclosed.
My wife has claustrophobia, and so always has to have a window open in the car so she can see out. That makes her not feel enclosed.
So unless the invisible woman can make her forcefields opaque, its NOT going to trigger her claustrophboia.
Originally posted by Blade Cutter
Take out Wolverine and put in Iceman then will be talking.
iceman's too powerful, he'd take them by himself.....get someone less powerful....doesnt matter FF wins, X and Wynndar are saying some really good things.....and as Cresh said an invisible bubble isnt gonna work but there are other ways to win.....
Originally posted by MetalmanxOr amunition for the XMen side. . .
Like I said before. Replace Wolverine with either Nightcrawler or Shadowcat. But preferably NC. Then X-men win this with a good fight and not too much damage.Wolverine just gives the Fantastic Four someone else to beat the crap out of really.
Chuck him at torch. even if torch fries him the skeleton wil still hit. . . lol
Originally posted by MetalmanxThat's all he's really good for in alot of these team up battles. . .
....HAHAHA! Cresh, that had to be the best thing that you've ever said.That was brilliatnt. Really.
Wolverine was thrown in? Well he's either ammunition or canon fodder, cause what can he do?
All four of the FF>Wolverine.
how will an INVISABLE bubble make storm claustrophibic? How will storm even know she is in the bubble. when storm was feeling scared when she was trapped in a tunnel, as soon as she saw the sky she was fine, and she will be seeing a sky here. even if storm got claustrophibic, did you see when doom did the same thing to her? yeah and if storm gets like that putting a bubble inside of her won't work because a lot of her was pure energy. I myself am claustrophobic, and being in an invisable bubble wouldn't do anything to me because I can see the outside world and everything. the only thing this will do to storm is protect her.