Originally posted by life is cruell
Thank you somebody who doesnt think torch is a hot head and will be taken out easily by storm. And I agree with you about sue being more powerful. Can storm blast a hole through galactus or knock out gldiator? Also storms pressure dome wont protect her from sue force blast.wynndar do you have scans of the torch gravitron fight?
yea in that fight Graviton dropped a couple sky-scrapers on Thing and She Thing and continued to push them to the center of the Earth, Torch regained consciousness after Graviton had sucked all the Oxygen away from him. Torch revealed that he could suck the Oxygen right back by increasing his intensity to Nova. Then he sucked all the ambient heat energy from the environment, confused Graviton by making a dozen flame replicas of himself that all mounted an individual offense against Grav. Eventually A spiky Thing and She Thing came back to the scene and knocked out a bewildered Graviton who was losing to the Torch.
storm has already lost to storm who wasn't trying much to beat him, she can do it again. she has snuffed his flame easily twice and can do so again. also it would be speculation as to who is more powerful between storm and sue because storm hasn't reached full potential yet, and storm has never released the true fury of her powers yet and is always still holding back. the pressure domw won't fully stop the force, but it will take most of the impact and slow it down. the only way for the FF team to win is if they take out storm, which won't be an easy task. you all are also assuming that johnny and aue are attached at the hip, and have syncronized attacks. they don't have a mind-link and can't read eachothers thoughts, so they will need time to formulatr a plan or something. they won't be going straight for storm at the very beginning of the fight, but as the natural flyers os the team storm and torch will probably go at it in the skies, which is storms domain. she has an easy way of defeating him, and anyone who knows anything about storm will know she can easily defeat him. sue will probably go with reed seing as most of the comics I have with the FF sue and reed usually go together.
Originally posted by life is cruell
Thank you somebody who doesnt think torch is a hot head and will be taken out easily by storm. And I agree with you about sue being more powerful. Can storm blast a hole through galactus or knock out gldiator? Also storms pressure dome wont protect her from sue force blast.wynndar do you have scans of the torch hyperion fight?
I never said easily taken out if you are referring to me, I'm saying that logic applies. If he's farther away, he becomes less effective, closer is where he is more effective, but at a greater risk.
As for the bizump, I had to go wyanndar. 😉
Thing VS Colossus
A good slugfest, but Colossus punched off his feet Juggernaut, and performed acrobatic attacks on him, his agility and reflexes outclass those of Thing, so for his strenght.Thing with his Class 85 Strenght will brawl with him, but Colossus is between 150/170 tons of lifting ability, he'll pummel poor Benji unconscious after testing he's not so much of a challenge for someone who showed his own against Gladiator and Juggernaut.
Human Torch VS Storm
Torch is more powerful than his early years, and his control over his powers is sufficient to make Storm's winds useless.Plus Storm has to create winds around her to fly, Torch fly under his own power, and can reach speeds over 200mph, he can easy speedblitz Storm and fire at her some fire balls, fire blasts, surround her in a fire cage and explode in a Nova Flame, or emit Nova Blasts from his hand to be sure Storm will stay dead.
Storm can hit him with lightnings, yes, but she isn't going to hit Torch considering how much things he can do with his powers.He can simply create huge fire walls around Storm or on the battlefield granting himself to face and enemy scared, cause Storm is claustrophobic, and hurt-tire her thanks to the heat of his attacks.
Anyway I'm waiting for a fanboy saying Storm can fire lasers through that sun crap trick.
Mr. Fantastic VS Wolverine
Reed will block Wolverine then crush him on the ground into unconsciouness, then Spidey and Colossus will come up with a plan to stop him after they take care of the Torch.
Invisible Woman VS Spider-Man
Spidey takes this, he can just web her face, and knock her out with a single punch, Spidey's speed, spider sense, reflexes and agility granted him to survive to various fights against the FF4, and Susan Richards hasn't got the fighter instinct Spidey has so the wall crawler takes the victory.
It takes sue an instant to put up her force field and they are incredibly durable. I think her shields have only BROKeN once when doom had the watchers power and was ner omnpotnt. All other times her shields went down was because of th strain to keep them after thor repeadely punded on it. If she didnt have to focus to keep up a field such as quasar doesnt it would be near imposible to break it. With a force bolt she has hurt namor gladiator and superskrull. In one comic all sue did was put spidey in a force field and it was game over for him.
*****Torch is more powerful than his early years, and his control over his powers is sufficient to make Storm's winds useless.Plus Storm has to create winds around her to fly, Torch fly under his own power, and can reach speeds over 200mph, he can easy speedblitz Storm and fire at her some fire balls, fire blasts, surround her in a fire cage and explode in a Nova Flame, or emit Nova Blasts from his hand to be sure Storm will stay dead.
Storm can hit him with lightnings, yes, but she isn't going to hit Torch considering how much things he can do with his powers.He can simply create huge fire walls around Storm or on the battlefield granting himself to face and enemy scared, cause Storm is claustrophobic, and hurt-tire her thanks to the heat of his attacks.
Anyway I'm waiting for a fanboy saying Storm can fire lasers through that sun crap trick.*****
storm beat torch not that long ago, and has snuffed his flame very recently. and his control over his powers will make storms powers useless? his control didn't help him the 2 times storm got rid of his flame easily. storm goes 200 mph easily, he won't be speedblitzing her with that speed. all it takes is about 5 or 3 seconds of concentration tops to take torch out. simultaneously summon a gust of wind(worked on him twice) and a lightning bolt to take him out. and for the recoed storm can do the laser thing(gene nation VS storm#2), but in a fight against torch, it would be useless.