Potential scenario:
Sue Storm could knock all except Colossus out by putting a temporary embolism in their carotid arteries blocking the flow of blood to the brain. (if I know this then Reed Richards likely knows this 😄 ) This would not kill them if she released her force bubbles after they passed out.
The other three can take out Colossus.
IW stays in character (sort of) and does not kill anyone.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Torch is being totally discounted. Couldn't he melt Colossus into a sentient puddle of molten steel?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Whether he does it depends on how much generating 12,000 degrees F of heat would affect the environment and people around him. And whether Storm would or could snuff out such an intense heat.
Where did metalman get the number 12000 from the handbook says 9000 degrees. Thats .9% of johnnys potential. Johnny wouldnt try and melt him though only hurt him a little im guessing hed need to get about 6000 degrees to somewhat harm him.
"k, storm is the key to wimming this battle. more than likely colossus and grimm wil fight, so storm doesn't need to worry about ben right now. storm will p[rolly go after torch because they have fought before and she knows how to beat him. she easily has blown out his flame twice so at the same time she snuffs his flame then summons a bolt to take him out. once torch os out storm will probably go after sue. al storm has to do is electrify the air inside sues forcefield to take her out because sue it still human. then that leaves reed, storm will call a pocket of extreme cold, snow, and rain around, literally freezing him. hell if she wanted to she could just flash-0freeze his entire body."
I like storm to but thats overestimating her. Assuming that shes going after them one by one without them puting up a fight. She could put out torch with a lil effort cuz he dont want to her her. Also IW could shield her brother from these effects then it would take storm time to make these effects inside the shield during this time Sue can take her out As for locking on to their natural electrical fields and shutting down their hearts or what not when does storm really do this? It may be withing her power but that doesnt mean thats how she fights just like force bubles in ppls brains isnt sues style.Reed can hadle wolverine since he cant sratch stretch and reed can also turn to gigantic proportions to take out spiderman. I agree colossus will defeat ben more often than not.
Storm is claustraphobic. Putting her in a bubble will drive her insane and take her out of the fight.
^an invisable bubble will cause storm to go insane....wtf?
k, everyone when i was talking about storm, everything i said will be assuming that they one-by-one attack her because her team won't let them all attack her at once. if sue shields johnny, then storm takes sue out, then johnny. one-on-one storm could take the fantastic four(that means individually). now she has help to do it all at once. storm by herself could take sue and johnny. she may be able to take reed in the mix all together, but that is doubtful.
I guess it depends on a lot of factors really....she could expand that same bubble just enough that they pain makes them go to lala land..(and after a certain point even a tough will power wont help)..except wolvie just keep him in his own personal bubble lower it in the ocean and let him die dammit.......
the only known metal the torch cant easily melt is adamantium. His regular surface which is covered with plasma which gives him flight is probably hot enough to melt colossus...if he hits a big metal man with offensive flame it was very certainly be hot enough to vaporize the Russian. Wolverine cant cut Reed...so i dont know how he or spiderman is allegedly going to easily beat Reed. Storm cat produce lightning inside of Sue's field...that is propaganda trash! Storm has produced weather inside of jars and magneto's field but that is nothing compared to Sue's field. She cant be touched inside her field by teleporters, or cosmic beings and u think Storm can just because she can inside a jar? Then there's the Thing and Colossus, and that just comes down to ur opinion of the two...but everyone knows my position on that fight.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Spidey wouldnt have to dodge. If Torch is shooting at him, the water automatically puts out any attack.
Including Napalm? Oh wait that's right, no, Or attacks hot enough to vaporate water instantly? Oh noes!
Or how about spidey shifts the water(trying to hit torch with it) in such a way that torch doesn't have to attack through the water?
*train of thought terminated as it stemmed from this faulty point.*
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Must you argue with everyone even when they're on your side... 😄
Anyway it was just one part of a possible scenario.
You can maybe tell me what side I'm on?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellI'd say that HT would be like a fire elemental in this case, or a mage as well since he doesn't h2h attack.
It won't matter, storm can work her powers regardless.Storm and sue are mages, the rest are fighters, best to keep the sorcerors alive.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellThis is true. . . If Sue takes out Ororo first FF win, If Storm takes out sue first FF win.
Sue and storm are sill deciding factors here.
With torch down Spiderman factors in more. . ..
Sue and Storm are at an impasse that makes it 50%/50% truly the deciding factors
HT can beat everyone but Storm.
Spidey can beat Thing and Fantastic
Reed can beat wolverine.
Thing and colossus. . . dunno.