Human Torch vs. Pyro

I didn't even take the time to search for this, so I apologize if this has already been made.

But really, I was thinking about this the other day. Human Torch, complete control of fire/flame/heat, whatever. He can fly with it, he can fire it, he can go nova with it.

Pyro, complete control over the same thing (fire/flame/heat). Would he be able to take control over HT's flames, however? That's what I was wondering. Could he remove the flame from HT?

Or would it just be a constant circle of energy, HT produces flames, Pyro taking control and pulling them off of HT?

I don't even have an answer to this myself, that's why I've made a thread for it, heh.

I'm curious what you nerds think. (Don't take offense, I'm a nerd as well). 💃 🤘

Umm... if it was a fight... Pyro's still vulnerable to heat while Torch isn't. So Torch would win.

this shit is stalemate

no way the flames would hurt that aussie novelist st. john allerdyce

^nerdy enough for you?

i was talking to topic creator

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Umm... if it was a fight... Pyro's still vulnerable to heat while Torch isn't. So Torch would win.

pyro can put away flames

Pyro has better control over fire than Torch. He would be able to control about any typeof flame Torch shoots at him.

However, once torch goes a certain temperature, Pyro wont be able to take it.

Torch wins by going to extreme temperatrures.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Umm... if it was a fight... Pyro's still vulnerable to heat while Torch isn't. So Torch would win.

As long as the fire or flames are in Pyro's control, hes not affected by it.

Originally posted by jrodslam
As long as the fire or flames are in Pyro's control, hes not affected by it.

But there isn't much Pyro could really do to Johnny compared to vice versa is there?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
But there isn't much Pyro could really do to Johnny compared to vice versa is there?

As i stated in my orignal post.

To my knowledge, heat won't have any effect on Pyro as well. Johnny can heat up as high as he wants, as long as there is fire and Pyro is there, heat won't hurt him either.

I'm thinking it would be a stalemate.

Unless, something I forgot to mention, they decided to fight hand to hand.

Then I would suppose Johnny would win.

That's the kicker. Johnny realises that his power isn't going to win it, he runs up and konks Pyro on the head. Sweet.

Stalemate I'd say

johnny will stop throwing fire balls and start throwing fist then its a wrap

Whats the limit of his manipulation, there has to be one.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Umm... if it was a fight... Pyro's still vulnerable to heat while Torch isn't. So Torch would win.

^where dyou read this?

Cosmic-level flame and heat control vs. Brotherhood-of-Evil-Mutants-level flame control.

Torch by a mile.

Torch would take down Pyro while pyro can only manipulate fire torch can create it and cover himself with it doesnt burn him so getting more fire on him isnt gonna do any damage

Originally posted by GGgrievous725
Torch would take down Pyro while pyro can only manipulate fire torch can create it and cover himself with it doesnt burn him so getting more fire on him isnt gonna do any damage

Not to mention the fact that Torch can become hotter than a supernova, and turn Pyro into a plasma of scattered subatomic particles.

yeah and in one of my comics wolverine punchs pyro once and that knocks him out lol weak