Human Torch vs. Pyro

Originally posted by LordKaos
Pyro can take control of any flame within line of sight once under his control he is immune to it (and the heat), the Human Torch is on fire, thus the name, Pyro can dim his flame as soon as he sees him, they'll have to duke it out. Pyro can take control of the fire, turn it into fists and have it beat the crap out of Torch.

he's not throwing it at him, he is pulling it from his form shaping it and commanding it to bludgeon him.

throwing fire at fire doesnt do a single thing. same as dumping water into water.

These are fire constructs that can also exert force there is a difference.

Originally posted by LordKaos
These are fire constructs that can also exert force there is a difference.

and if he turns into fire then Pyro can just manipulate him entirely and make him kick his own ass, or revert him to human form by making the flame go out. He could make his body go out keep his fists on fire and control them to beat his own ass again.

Originally posted by LordKaos
and if he turns into fire then Pyro can just manipulate him entirely and make him kick his own ass, or revert him to human form by making the flame go out. He could make his body go out keep his fists on fire and control them to beat his own ass again.

He is never as hot as the sun all the time and that nova thing he does depletes his reserves considerably, line of sight is line of sight if he can see him he can control, so in that same sec he turns back Pyro does it again. How would he kill his hands, any fire blasts coming at Pyro can be instantaneously grabbed by his psionic power!

Originally posted by LordKaos
He is never as hot as the sun all the time and that nova thing he does depletes his reserves considerably, line of sight is line of sight if he can see him he can control, so in that same sec he turns back Pyro does it again. How would he kill his hands, any fire blasts coming at Pyro can be instantaneously grabbed by his psionic power!

a nova is not hotter than the sun if it is the sun that goes nova. you need to stop trying to make a point out of simplifying what i'm saying, you said Torch Can turn into fire, Pyro by definition of his power can control him point blank, effectively neutralizing him, Pyro could take his fire form and send it skyward and cause it slam into the ground and keep doing it until the Human Flamer is out.

Originally posted by LordKaos
a nova is not hotter than the sun if it is the sun that goes nova. you need to stop trying to make a point out of simplifying what i'm saying, you said Torch Can turn into fire, Pyro by definition of his power can control him point blank, effectively neutralizing him, Pyro could take his fire form and send it skyward and cause it slam into the ground and keep doing it until the Human Flamer is out.

and yes supernova is hotter than the sun. if you got a dictionary look it up

supernova and nova aren't the same thing so you look it up. and that's not really the issue anyway, they'd be changing his form back and forth forever then, it would get tiresome and then he'd just take over his whole form.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/ultimatebios/ultimatehumantorch.htm

read his bio. says he can control fire outside of himself as well so same powers are pyro

And?!? it has yet to be explained, what that means in the comics is we don't feel like elaborating so what you see is what you get.

hahahaha thats your response there cause u dont want to admit im right of what i said. you know human torch would kick his butt you just love to argue but i dont mind. i guess thats why they call this versus forums. have a good night

whatever you freak. the comment was to show that you are still talking in circles that apparently orginate in your ass.

Well, Pyro can not only control fire to throw it at someone, but can also create fire creatures that are almost solid and have an actual superstrength level.
He was able to create a firegolem that was able to punch the Hulk around and a firebird that was able to hold Colossus in midair!!!
I think Pyro can control Torch's flame and use it to crush his every bone.

Btw...the so called NOVA-flame is just a prestige name i'd say, cause if it would be a real nova, it would simply burn away earth's whole atmosphere and surface. It surely is much hotter than Torch's normal flame, but certainly faaar from reaching the heat of real cosmic nova.

Originally posted by wannabe
Well, Pyro can not only control fire to throw it at someone, but can also create fire creatures that are almost solid and have an actual superstrength level.
He was able to create a firegolem that was able to punch the Hulk around and a firebird that was able to hold Colossus in midair!!!
I think Pyro can control Torch's flame and use it to crush his every bone.

Btw...the so called NOVA-flame is just a prestige name i'd say, cause if it would be a real nova, it would simply burn away earth's whole atmosphere and surface. It surely is much hotter than Torch's normal flame, but certainly faaar from reaching the heat of real cosmic nova.

Couldn't agree more. Torch isn't getting anywhere with flame on. The only hope is to duke it out with Pyro, in which case I have no answer how that would turn out. Maybe give it to Torch through experience? I really have no idea.

yall are wrong there. torch is the king of fire for sure.