Could not Pyro just maipulate Johny as a whole well he is covered in flames, and make Johny rip his jaw open, or pull out his own tongue, or gouge his eyes, and so on. And If johny turns his flames off to fight hand to hand, then Pyro could use a liter to create flame or flame constructs which as earlier mentioned are strong enough to hold collosus and fight hulk, to battle and defeat Jonhy.
Johny grabing pyro and droping him from the air requires johny to physicaly grab Pyro, in which he would need to travel to get to him and if Pyro sees him then its flame off for johny. If Johny does grab him and take him into the air then Pyro could first pull the flame off of Johny and construct a fire phoenix to hold Pyro safely in the air, once that is done Pyro shuts off Johnys flame causing him to fall from the sky. If Johny reignites then Pyro manipulates Johny's entire body to destroy himself.
Pyro may be falling faster being droped first, but once Pyro pulls the fire of off Johny he constructs a fire phoenix to safely hold him (pyro) in the air or take him to the ground. Johny now flameless has two options, he can fall and be injured or possibly die, or he could reignite his flame which if he does Pyro could manipulate the flame on Johny to crush him, or to destroy himself as in rip himself to pieces.
Hm. These are actually some really well-thought arguments here. I'm glad to see that, I wasn't expecting much when I made this thread so long ago.
But now, upon further consideration and seeing other opinions, I just may have to give this match to Pyro. Even if Johnny decided to go hand-to-hand, then Pyro could make a flame-creature to destory HT. And, if HT decides for the fire approach, Pyro's got him there, too. Hmm...perhaps Pyro is a bit underestimated, eh?
Pyro for the win 7-8/10.
Originally posted by Jesse7if he takes johnnys fire he will turnhimself back into fire in a sec. if johhny goes and grabs pyro hes gone from going over board of giving him the fire.
He doesn't need to defeat Johny with fire directly, he could manipulate the fire that johny is engulfed in to destroy him.
Originally posted by outarddwarfHT can control fire outside of himself as well so he can grabs pyros fire and send right back at him in a sec.
pyro could constantly snuff the flame from HT. He just focuses on him and no combustion is allowed to occur. Don't say he will light back up because he just continuously focuses and ht wont be able to use it at all.
Pyro doesn't need to take the fire from Johny, he lets johny keep the fire that he is engulfed in, in no way taking it from him. Pyro rather manipulates the constant fire that Johny is engulfed in and uses it to to destroy johny, not by burning him but by controlling johnys arms, legs, body, which is covered and engulfed in fire, to tear himself (Johny) apart. Johny may be resiliant to fire, but how about to mass bleeding?