Originally posted by newjak86
I'm not a Unicron fan I hate the idea of someone other than the creator existing out of creation but you are trying to say something you can not prove and that Unicron isn't of comparable power. All I've heard is that Phoneix makes creation but Unicron destroyes creation and esixts outside of it and he's destroying something he didn't create proving that his power is beyond creation. You want to try and say it is stupid by saying it is a like saying someone destroying Iceman's shield well guess what that means that that person has to be atleast strong enough to do it. Unicron is strong enough todestroy something he didn't create but is Phoenix's biggest boast of power. This proves that they are comparable in power. It is obvious you are a Phoenix fan but a very knowlegable one that knows what they are talking about which is why i don't call you a fanboy. But I feel that I have at least taken your best and proven that Unicron is comparable and that Phoenix isn't leaps and bounds beyond him.
I think the the true testament to great power is the ability to create, I mean creation is a greater feat that destruction, virtually anyone can destroy and only a handful can create. If you're comparing the virtual embodiment of Chaos and the manfestation of birth and creation, both can destroy, but only one can create. I'm not saying any of this on a bias perspective since I'm a Phoenix fan, I've also been a transformer fan since I was 2.
Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
I think the the true testament to great power is the ability to create, I mean creation is a greater feat that destruction, virtually anyone can destroy and only a handful can create. If you're comparing the virtual embodiment of Chaos and the manfestation of birth and creation, both can destroy, but only one can create. I'm not saying any of this on a bias perspective since I'm a Phoenix fan, I've also been a transformer fan since I was 2.
Originally posted by newjak86
Ok fine you want to argue that Unicron can not create fine I have been doing some more research. Unicron can take someone dead and bring them back to life or replenish their life force showing that he has the power to create as well but this is not his ultimate goal all he wants to do is destroy all of creation since he wants to be alone I guess. He can destroy Creation meaning that he has to be able to detroy time atoms space and dimensions this no small feat. So he has the power to destroy Phoenix's biggest boast as well as create. Man if you guys choose to disregard this then there's no hope. I have never once argued against phoenix's power but Unicron is comparable.
But thats not what this arguments about. Its whether phoenix would win over unicron and you've admitted that now, but because you're a unicron fan you just wanna hear from us that he's comparable just to soften the blow. 😛
Bringing someone back to life is not an act of creation. That is a resurrection.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But thats not what this arguments about. Its whether phoenix would win over unicron and you've admitted that now, but because you're a unicron fan you just wanna hear from us that he's comparable just to soften the blow. 😛Bringing someone back to life is not an act of creation. That is a resurrection.
Wow, I leave and all sorts of crazyness happens in here..lol
Unicron does not fear creation, he hates the matrix because it's primus essence.
Primus is one with creation, however he basically had to commit suicide in order to stop unicron. Any other way...creation would have been completely destroyed this time with nothing left but unicron.
If Phoenix doesnt completely sacrifice itself (IE no coming back) then this fight would continue until everything is destroyed again which is the problem Primus had.
Should Phoenix destroy everything...all that would do is make Unicron happy.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You not gonna take that back grey fox? Acting like a fanboy am i? Im just stating the facts. So you being ignorant on the subject assumed me of being a fanboy. Thats not very nice lol
It's not your fault Marvel has gone insane and given the fanboys exactly what they want... x-men as the focal point of the MU.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
It's not your fault Marvel has gone insane and given the fanboys exactly what they want... x-men as the focal point of the MU.
I dont think i would have cared for that even back i was a marvel zombie and was subscribing to X-Men/Gen-X/Uncanny/etc.Now its just a big handjob to hardcore fanboys and to hell with any continuity or sense of storyline throughout the years.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But thats not what this arguments about. Its whether phoenix would win over unicron and you've admitted that now, but because you're a unicron fan you just wanna hear from us that he's comparable just to soften the blow. 😛Bringing someone back to life is not an act of creation. That is a resurrection.
Yea, that's exactly what I mean, necromancers and sorcerers can summon and reanimate the dead but they cannot create, alchemists can build but not create. I never said that Unicron cannot do anything besides destruction, he revived Megatron into Galvatron, he is very powerful, he is the embodiment of Chaos. I am just saying that igniting the Inferno of Creation can only be topped by a few other feats ( i.e. thinking yourself into existence and thinking into existence the Spark of Creation)