"Is Twilght really made from a peice of a white dwarf? If it is, Thor is strong as hell. He lifted Twilight and threw it. Something the size of Surtur's sword would weight a f*ckload if it's made from white dwarf matter."
Yeh it would weigh loads. Not as much as would if it was a neutron Star but it would weigh millions of Tons 🤓
Originally posted by yahman
"Is Twilght really made from a peice of a white dwarf? If it is, Thor is strong as hell. He lifted Twilight and threw it. Something the size of Surtur's sword would weight a f*ckload if it's made from white dwarf matter."Yeh it would weigh loads. Not as much as would if it was a neutron Star but it would weigh millions of Tons 🤓
Millions?! Pfft... Try about 10x10^20 tons. It would be heavier than the Earth itself. A teaspoon of White dwarf matter weighs more than a billion tons. Surtur's sword was HUGE.
"OBSTINATE. "Stubborn." Not blind."
Fine, at least that. I need the eyes to draw. I apologise if i intend to say something that wasent there.
"Millions?! Pfft... Try about 10x10^20 tons. It would be heavier than the Earth itself."
With so many having the strengh of earth itself, would that surprise you? 😉 About the how much it weigths, i dont recall ever been stated a number in the whole story. Like the midgard serpent thing and the size of the planet Herc and Thor supossly made it get out of orbit. Its stuff that doesnt come with the exat numbers showed. Btw CC liked the site? Its cool or what.
"Millions?! Pfft... Try about 10x10^20 tons. It would be heavier than the Earth itself. A teaspoon of White dwarf matter weighs more than a billion tons. Surtur's sword was HUGE."
Dude there is a difference between a White Dwarf star and a Neutron Star.
"A teaspoon of White dwarf matter weighs more than a billion tons."
This only occurs in a Neutron Star. This is when the Electrons are squezzed to the point that they are touching the Neutrons. In a White Dwarf star A Teaspoon Of sugar weighs about a thousand tons. 🤓
Originally posted by olympian
"OBSTINATE. "Stubborn." Not blind."Fine, at least that. I need the eyes to draw. I apologise if i intend to say something that wasent there.
"Millions?! Pfft... Try about 10x10^20 tons. It would be heavier than the Earth itself."
With so many having the strengh of earth itself, would that surprise you? 😉 About the how much it weigths, i dont recall ever been stated a number in the whole story. Like the midgard serpent thing and the size of the planet Herc and Thor supossly made it get out of orbit. Its stuff that doesnt come with the exat numbers showed. Btw CC liked the site? Its cool or what.
Doesn't Thor get his strength from a combo of Gaea and Odin? I heard Friggia (or whatever) isn't his real mother.
It sure is. I wish I knew about it earlier. Thor doesn't get enough respect here. ❌
Originally posted by yahman
"Millions?! Pfft... Try about 10x10^20 tons. It would be heavier than the Earth itself. A teaspoon of White dwarf matter weighs more than a billion tons. Surtur's sword was HUGE."Dude there is a difference between a White Dwarf star and a Neutron Star.
"A teaspoon of White dwarf matter weighs more than a billion tons."
This only occurs in a Neutron Star. This is when the Electrons are squezzed to the point that they are touching the Neutrons. In a White Dwarf star A Teaspoon Of sugar weighs about a thousand tons. 🤓
There are no electrons in a neutron star. Gravity pulls electrons into protons, and they become neutrons.
You're almost right, though.
A teaspoon of dwarf matter weighs about a ton.
"There are no electrons in a neutron star. Gravity pulls electrons into protons, and they become neutrons."
Oh yeh that would make alot of sense. I was wondering when i wrote t why the Electrons wouldn't just repell each other away. I think a White Dwarf is called a White Dwarf because the Irons surface becomes so hot it glows white hot.
"A teaspoon of dwarf matter weighs about a ton."
I have a figure which suggests it weighs about a Kilo ton. And if Twilight is made of the matter that makes a WD star it will weigh about as much as a mountain. If its made out of Neutron star material it will weigh as much as a small celestial object.
"Wich makes Thor look impressive if the sword actually weights like the later.
Wouldnt his lifting of the Midgard Serpent fill the role of a celestial object size feat?"
It was shown that he couldnt actually lift the midgard serpent, just a part of it. Plus the Midgard Serpent is a mystical object, with physical properties that the laws of physics are unlikely to apply. It may not have what we concieve as a normal physical mass. It it weighed the same mass as a Celestial object it would have crushed the earth.
Thor did lifted the Serpent off earth once. With a fishing line no less (no im not kidding). If its still cannon or not its to be seen. The being able to lift only a part of the Serpent is from the myth when he was in the land of the giants (if he was weaker or not i dont recall), the Serpent was disguised as a huge cat and Thor lifted a leg "only".
That one also happened in at Marvel, then its another where he totally lifted it from earth.
"It it weighed the same mass as a Celestial object it would have crushed the earth."
I take it actualy weights as much as well....a serpent would weight with that size. About crushing the earth yes it should. But wer talking magical beings, where the impossible happens.
"I take it actualy weights as much as well....a serpent would weight with that size. About crushing the earth yes it should. But wer talking magical beings, where the impossible happens."
You cant have it both ways. You cant say something that size would weigh as much as a celestial object and then say its weight wouldnt effect the earth because it is a mystical creature.
"Thor did lifted the Serpent off earth once. With a fishing line no less (no im not kidding)."
He didnt lift it he dragged it. I can drag objects that weigh far more than what i can lift.
"If its still cannon or not its to be seen."
What does this mean "cannon".
thor is indeed underrated, and i think badly written at times. though he doesnt possess the power of infinite strength that hulk can tap into, he is certainly a very strong dude. white dwarves are the result of a star like our sun dying. neutron stars are the result of massive stars that didnt quite become black holes. oh herc would lose to hulk in a battle where a winner had to be found without interruptions preventing hulk from getting insanely strong. herc would hit a level hulk would not
Originally posted by olympian
Thor did lifted the Serpent off earth once. With a fishing line no less (no im not kidding). If its still cannon or not its to be seen. The being able to lift only a part of the Serpent is from the myth when he was in the land of the giants (if he was weaker or not i dont recall), the Serpent was disguised as a huge cat and Thor lifted a leg "only".That one also happened in at Marvel, then its another where he totally lifted it from earth.
"It it weighed the same mass as a Celestial object it would have crushed the earth."
I take it actualy weights as much as well....a serpent would weight with that size. About crushing the earth yes it should. But wer talking magical beings, where the impossible happens.
Thor lifting Jormungand is indeed mythical, not canon (I am familiar with that story). In what issue did he lift it clean off of the earth? I have nigh every issue of Simonson's run and when they met I do not remember him lifting Jormungand. He destroyed his face. Where did they meet again?
Thor also lifted...I forget the name of the engine. At any rate, the general strength heirarchy for both DC and Marvel is Hulk, then Superman/Thor, then others.
Yahman, "canon" (not cannon) means simply an established rule/principle. For example, Wolverine healing quickly from wounds is canon. Juggernaut being immortal is not.
I don't know if Thor is written poorly. Recall that Thor is a hothead and oftentimes does NOT fight to his full potential. He's easily goaded into instances of idiocy (recall Hulk daring Thor to throw away his hammer -- or when he tried to WALK through Superman's heat ray vision instead of using Mjolnir to absorb it. Dumb) and seldom exploits an opponent's weakness (using Mjolnir to disconnect Juggernaut from the gem, for example).
If Thor had Superman's patience, for example, and did not go hopping into fights without sizing up his opponent, he would be pretty damn nasty. Using Mjolnir to its full advantage? Pfffft, lots of people that normally defeat him would not stand a chance.
But that his how Thor's personality is written.
"Thor lifting Jormungand is indeed mythical, not canon (I am familiar with that story). In what issue did he lift it clean off of the earth? I have nigh every issue of Simonson's run and when they met I do not remember him lifting Jormungand. He destroyed his face. Where did they meet again?"
Your right about it. That episode of the Midgard Serpent disguised as a cat from the myth was played during the Simosons run. About the other it didnt belonged to that run. I fail to remember the number thats why i dont recall if its cannon or not. He sailed on some kind of boat that belonged to a giant. They sailed to open space and with a fishing line he dragged the serpent off earth. Ill try to find scans or at least the issue number at Alvaros boards since it was there where i saw it.
"Thor also lifted...I forget the name of the engine"
Your refering to the Worlds engine, during Deodatos run as an artist?
Originally posted by olympian
Your refering to the Worlds engine, during Deodatos run as an artist?
Correct.
Yahman, try Thor #492ish with Warren Ellis writing. I won't bother trying to give an estimate for the weight as I have zero clue. It is, however, generally listed as one of Thor's more impressive feats of strength.