It wasent long. yet it showed he wasent below unlike others like Iron man, an out of water Namor and wonder Man.
About the second fight with the Avengers, Hulk doesnt do good. Sure he held its own but against a team composed mostly by streeth levels, he doesnt manage to ko or beat anyone for good. Still Hercules is the only one seen figthing back. I dont count the others with the exception She Hulk and Wman exactly for that. They wer cannon fodder. Its a low showing Hulk didnt beat all of them but they werent doing anything in return either.
In the end Hercules has the better showing in that storyline in the whole. Never went down, fought him alone, managed to put the hurt, lasted the whole fight without being bruised or tired and was the one that trew the last 3 shots for the Ko when Hulk was weaker.
Overall more impressive to me.
herc is just shown hitting hulk with a pipe big deal. happens all the time and shows nothing. as ive said over and over huk is shown at many levels of power depending where the writer wants to go. however where hulk differs to other characters on this is writers have any level of strength they need to use with hulks character , not so with other heroes characteristics
"herc is just shown hitting hulk with a pipe big deal."
yeah he likes baseball. He did the same against Abomination recently.
"happens all the time and shows nothing"
Now Now, it shows Hulk can fly.
"as ive said over and over huk is shown at many levels of power depending where the writer wants to go"
Each character shows what the writters want. If a writter wants to show Herc helding the world like in the myth he can. If he wants to show Hulk destroying the planet with his punches, they can. Thing is they would have to power up the other heroes who are in the same league and show that the ones above do or can do better.
Your standards of "proof" are rather high. I've shown you Hulk surpassing the strength level of a Celestial, and resisting an utterly irresistable force. For some reason in your opinion, it doesn't prove limitless strength. Hulk isn't going to wrestle the Living Tribunal, so if that's what you're looking for, I guess there is no way to prove to you that Hulk has limitless potential for strength. You aren't open to convincing.
Here is my point of view.
The standarts are the usual. Surpassing a Celestial means doing something a Celestial cant do, or fails to do. The scan you provided merely implied that Hulk manage to overcome something that was built to be durable against power of "Gods" . How that translates into being Celestials. How that says : A god cant do it. Thats what high end feats are about. If a Celestial actually tried and fail, show it where it happened or was stated on panel. But lets continue with my view of it.
One comparation. Hercules in the myth did things no mortal could do. And some feats wer godlike. Helding the heavens, for example is a godlike feat. Does that means Gods couldnt do it either and perhaps better because he did?
Overcoming the impossible its something that big heroes do time to time. The way i see from that scan, Hulk manage to destroy something incredible durable but that wasent show to be something the Gods itself coulnt do. " To whistand the power of gods " means to someone below them its a feat virtualy impossible to achieve. But Hulk did it. Like the old mythic heroes.
Try to understand im not bashing Hulk. Belive it or not just because Herc is a fav doesnt mean Hulk is not. I even like his punching the time stream feat as one of my fav. Im just saying that overcoming something thats designed to deal with godly class doesnt mean someone surpass that class.
Both Odin ( talking about the other thread ) and Hulk can max theyr strenght. Odin will go further than Hulk tho because his max has been used to defeat h2h pll who had the power to destroy galaxies. And they did like its the case of Surtur who did it just to forge its twiling sword. His fight with Seth was felt tro dimensions. His fight with Infinity in space was making Earth tremble and showcasing natural disasters. His max overall including strengh is bigger than the Hulk. I like the big guy but nor he and others the same class win unless these kind of opponents lose due to plot devices. Or if they want to lose.
No one has a feat that equals Hulk resisting the matter antimatter attraction. Not Hercules, Thor, Thanos, or anyone else. Overcoming an irresistable force requires limitless strength. Moving the orbs apart even slightly would require infinite force. Hulk punches one of them billions of miles away, into space.
Its your opinion. Mine is he will lose because of his setback and because Hercules lasts all theyr fight.
And again thats a huge feat that Hulk would ultimely lose. As it was stated by Spiderman saying its impossible to keep them apart for much and Hulk was losing it.
If you ask me that feat is above what Herc and Thor usually pulls up then your correct.
Are Hercules's feats in myth canon for use in comics?
The Deviants created the wall to withstand "a menace from beyond the stars." Celestials were unable to destroy the wall. They tried, and failed. Hulk tried, and succeeded.
Galaxy Master is capable of destroying galaxies. Hulk was strong enough to defeat him. When did Hulk punch through time?
Cube, his name is "Olympian." Hercules is an Olympian god.
Does his obstinate support of Hercules come as much of a surprise, like "JuggernautFan", "Wolverine8888," and "Sentry?"
Look at this circumstantial evidence. "Odin will go further than Hulk" because Odin used his power to amp him up in order to fight people who destroyed galaxies. Big damn deal. Hulk is as strong as is necessary. Comic book CANON is that Hulk's strength is, for all intents and purposes, limitless.
Limitless. Refamiliarize yourselves with the definition of the term.
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Its your opinion. Mine is he will lose because of his setback and because Hercules lasts all theyr fight.And again thats a huge feat that Hulk would ultimely lose. As it was stated by Spiderman saying its impossible to keep them apart for much and Hulk was losing it.
If you ask me that feat is above what Herc and Thor usually pulls up then your correct.
Do you truely inderstand the matter antimatter attraction? The force of attraction between the orbs is not finite. It is impossible to seperate matter and antimatter. Impossible.
Hulk didn't just hold them apart. He broke the force of attraction, and punched the orb into deep space.
Hulk's strength defies the laws of physics, and logic.
It is infinitely superior to anything Hercules or Thor have ever done.
The Character is the same. His feats wer referenced in comics before. And in his current mini, it was showed him making a feat that had to do with overcomng the guilt of him killing his wife and two kids due to mad rage. So yes its cannon.
"The Devients created the wall to withstand "a menace from beyond the stars." Celestials were unable to destroy the wall. They tried, and failed. Hulk tried, and succeeded."
And thats what i want to see. Hulk and others can achieve the class but not surpass it. High end feats are that. Myth has loadz of them.
"Galaxy Master is capable of destroying galaxies. Hulk was strong enough to defeat him"
You dont mean Grandmaster? When and how did Hulk defeated him?
"When did Hulk punch through time?"
My bad, i meant the breaking thro the time storm to World War one. In Hulk 135 where Kang used him. Its one of my fav issues of Hulk.