The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

It's all very well you saying there is no split, but Nintendo have said there was (and also specified that Link DOES go back in time), so where does that leave that?

And my points about ALTTP stand as well- the game actually says it is a prequel to the earlier games on the packaging itself, and was marketted as, and declared to be, a prequel to the first two games., I am not aware of official comments to the contrary but they would be, at best, contradictory and so subject to debate. So you trying to make out that the timeline is simple is a bit sunk. As has been commented, it is actually a total continuity nightmare.

(also, as the Master Sword isn't actually IN the first two, that's not a problem with ALTTP being before them. Nor is the Sacred Realm, and Ganon being permanently destroyed is a matter of opinion.).

I have never been into the Zelda games before, but now that Wii is soon launched I am considering getting Twilight princess, I like RPG games and quiz solving is always fun. However before I play it I would like to know what happened in the other games, anyone know of a site that tells the full story of Link and his Zelda adventures (only about the games, not the comics or TV-series)=

Originally posted by Morridini
I have never been into the Zelda games before, but now that Wii is soon launched I am considering getting Twilight princess, I like RPG games and quiz solving is always fun. However before I play it I would like to know what happened in the other games, anyone know of a site that tells the full story of Link and his Zelda adventures (only about the games, not the comics or TV-series)=

I've never heard anybody call puzzles in games quizzes.

There's a Comic and TV Series on Zelda? 🤨

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by InnerRise
I like how you say "Quiz sovling is always fun." tongue

I've never heard anybody call puzzles in games quizzes.

Quiz, puzzles, mindgames, whatever. You know what i mean. You face a problem, u have to think to reach an solution, and when u get the right one u accomplish something.

Originally posted by InnerRise
There's a Comic and TV Series on Zelda? 🤨

Almost all big hits have comics and TV-series:

Legend of Zelda TV-series: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_%28TV_series%29

And there has been two comics of the Legend of Zelda, one in a Nintendo magazine and one seperate Manga.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_series_manga

as u see Wikipedia is good for finding some info, but not what i am looking for. Anyone can help?

If they ever actually planned on telling us the timeline, they better do so soon because TP seems to be juggling the timeline around a bit.

And to Darth Jello, Link had the Ocarina of Time in Majora's Mask because Zelda gave it to him before he left Hyrule.

Also, TP doesn't necessarily show the Imprisoning War. For one thing, there was no war. Also, how does TP connect to TMC?

That was a GREAT game, I'm only confused about one thing... WHAT DID ZANT DO TO GANONDORF?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
(also, as the Master Sword isn't actually IN the first two, that's not a problem with ALTTP being before them. Nor is the Sacred Realm, and Ganon being permanently destroyed is a matter of opinion.).

... HI USH!!!

Ok, The Essence of the Triforce said that Ganon was permanently destroyed, how is that a matter of opinion?

though, nothing stated that the sacred relm was destroyed.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
And to Darth Jello, Link had the Ocarina of Time in Majora's Mask because Zelda gave it to him before he left Hyrule.

Also, TP doesn't necessarily show the Imprisoning War. For one thing, there was no war. Also, how does TP connect to TMC?

Yea, I saw nothing on MC in TP, Though, ALTTP is the last in the series, listen to the good-ol Triforce... Though Koume & Kotake do Revive Ganon in OOA & OOS... *Thinks on this* And in Zelda 2 you are fighting against his revival... so, you never know...

I've always been under the impression that AoL was the final game, timeline-wise. And again, ALttP has always been said to be a prequel to the first two games by all official sources. The Oracle games have the benefit of being a completely closed story within eachother, and so can fit almost anywhere in the timeline.

The main problem with the Imprisoning War is it isn't exactly defined, and theres the "time-worn legend" escape clause that means the details don't have to be exact. A scene in TP could be said to show part of the Imprisoning War by that logic, but TP itself has nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by Nactous
Took me 29. 70 Hours my Ass. 😠

But you mainly just went through the story, and don't give me the "Well I fixed the bridge crap" I did more of the side quests, and it bumped my time up. ypu MUST take in to account that Shigeru and Company were consitering the Side-quests also.

Just tell me, How many bomb bags do you have?
How many bottles?
Haw many Heart containers did you find?
Did you do the baloon game on the river?
did you hunt for the Golden Incets?
How many fish did you catch?
How many Poe's did you find?
Did you turn the Gold Guy (Can't remember his name) normal again, by finding enough poes?
Do you know where you can find the Great farie's tears?

When you have done all that, and the rest, then you can complain about the length of the game!

((Oh, now it lets me edit this one))

Originally posted by General Kaliero
I've always been under the impression that AoL was the final game, timeline-wise. And again, ALttP has always been said to be a prequel to the first two games by all official sources. The Oracle games have the benefit of being a completely closed story within eachother, and so can fit almost anywhere in the timeline.

The main problem with the Imprisoning War is it isn't exactly defined, and theres the "time-worn legend" escape clause that means the details don't have to be exact. A scene in TP could be said to show part of the Imprisoning War by that logic, but TP itself has nothing to do with it.

True, True

AoL takes place like a few years after LOZ, So when LOZ happens, AOL is immediatly afterwards

The Triforce was evidently not correct. Having villains come back after apparent unreturnable destruction is hardly a unqiue occurrence.

What is, as I say, NOT up for debate is the fact that Nintendo, the game makers, and the box for ALTTP clearly state it is set before LOZ and AoL. You really can't get past that. It's one of the reasons they used the word 'Past' in the title.

This is why I don't give a shit about Zelda stories/time line. It's too convoluted and sloppy to even waste time on.

Ganon, is gone in ALTTP cause he doesn't have the triforce and there's no one left to revive him.

anywho, the imprisoning war. We first hear about it in A Link to the Past as a war between factions over control of the triforce, ending in evil power flowing from the sacred realm and seven sages sealing it. The manuel mentions evil followers being turned into monsters and the master sword being created by the godesses to fight the evil.

In Ocarina of Time, you find out that the temples were built by the sages to focus their power and that their spirits had to be awakened inside of seven individuals. also that the master sword was used to seal the sacred realm.

The Minish Cap intro (the extended version which you get to see in the game once you get to the room inside the castle where you restore the sword) and game, you find out that the world was once on the verge of being "cast into shadow" by monsters and that the minish gave the the first Link a sword (the piccorri blade) and a light-the lightforce and the source of princess zelda's power to fight monsters and that they used it to trap the monsters in the piccori blade.

In Twilight Princess, you learn that the Twili were once beings that gained great power and tried to take over Hyrule and cast it in shadow, so the Godesses banished them to their own realm inside the sacred realm. They are also sensitive to light generated by Zelda.

Conclusion: The imprisoning war was an event when a faction tried to invade the sacred realm and take the triforce, resulting in a bloody war. They succeeded and became the twili, turning their followers into monsters and casting shadow over Hyrule. Link recieved help from the Piccori via a sword used to seal the monsters and Zelda's power which was used to drive the Twili back. In order to kick them out permanently, 6 temples were built by sages to focus the elements of nature, Link then defeated the Twili with the master sword provided by the godesses and the sages sealed them in the twilight realm, away from the triforce. The sacred realm was then also sealed to prevent this from ever happening again.

the other rationale behind this version is that everyone involved has said the Minish Cap is the first game in the series and that the war described at the beginning of Ocarina was most likely with the Gerudo considering the tension between them and the other races. This fits best with all the official info and ties TP to the rest of the series.

Originally posted by BackFire
This is why I don't give a shit about Zelda stories/time line. It's too convoluted and sloppy to even waste time on.

I dont even think Nintendo gave a shit until about WW. 😛

Nah, Ast, it's the other way around. According to Nintendo, AoL comes after LoZ, ALttP was a clearly stated prequel, and LA was the direct followup to that. It's OoT that gets everything fuzzy, because while all the main components mirror the Imprisoning War story, it's too different to be the same thing. That's when they apparently stopped worrying about the timeline.

Jello: It's a good theory, but it has a few pitfalls. First, the evil faction that invaded the Sacred Realm was led by Ganondorf, King of Thieves. If Ganondorf is alive at this point, the Imprisoning War must take place after OoT. As TMC is accepted as the earliest game, the Picori and the Four Sword are already centuries past.

Also, it's stated in ALttP (or its manual, can't remember which) that though the Master Sword appeared to drive back the evil forces, there were none who could wield it. Thus there was no singular Hero (Link) to stop Ganondorf. As a result (also stated in ALttP) all the Hylian Knights died protecting the Sages as they worked on the seal to the Sacred Realm.

The simplest answer is that, despite the fact that the Imprisoning War is one of the most important events in Zelda history, if not THE most important event, it has never been featured in a game, and never will be, as there was no Hero to take up the Master Sword and defeat Ganon.

Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
But you mainly just went through the story, and don't give me the "Well I fixed the bridge crap" I did more of the side quests, and it bumped my time up. ypu MUST take in to account that Shigeru and Company were consitering the Side-quests also.

Just tell me, How many bomb bags do you have?
How many bottles?
Haw many Heart containers did you find?
Did you do the baloon game on the river?
did you hunt for the Golden Incets?
How many fish did you catch?
How many Poe's did you find?
Did you turn the Gold Guy (Can't remember his name) normal again, by finding enough poes?
Do you know where you can find the Great farie's tears?

When you have done all that, and the rest, then you can complain about the length of the game!

((Oh, now it lets me edit this one))

Umm, yea I just beat the Temple of Time and I'm at 50 hours...these people are rushing through the game.

Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
But you mainly just went through the story, and don't give me the "Well I fixed the bridge crap" I did more of the side quests, and it bumped my time up. ypu MUST take in to account that Shigeru and Company were consitering the Side-quests also.

Just tell me, How many bomb bags do you have?
How many bottles?
Haw many Heart containers did you find?
Did you do the baloon game on the river?
did you hunt for the Golden Incets?
How many fish did you catch?
How many Poe's did you find?
Did you turn the Gold Guy (Can't remember his name) normal again, by finding enough poes?
Do you know where you can find the Great farie's tears?

When you have done all that, and the rest, then you can complain about the length of the game!

((Oh, now it lets me edit this one))

why are people rushing through Twillight Princess, it's not a compitition...lol

ahh can't wait 7 more days till the Wii+Zelda come out in Australia...

Originally posted by Emma718
why are people rushing through Twillight Princess, it's not a compitition...lol

ahh can't wait 7 more days till the Wii+Zelda come out in Australia...

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

people are stupid. hey, lets rush through a game thats built around a lot of sidequests and then complain how short it is.