EU Continuity problem in KOTOR?

Started by Ushgarak10 pages

No it isn't. Despite all you say, everything we said above holds. The current version of the Republic dates from 1000 years ago. That is from the films. The Republic has existed in some form or other for a thousand generations- about 25000 years. That is from the films. These are undeniable facts.

Therefore Sio and Palpatine are not wrong in the slightest- they are dating it from the most recent inception. Any non-film source which says this more recent inception does not exist is therefore wrong. And so therefore the only possibly erroneous source is the (often fallible) info on the website.

No continuity issue.

Well EU wise there were lots of EU wars "The Stark Hyperspace War" "The Yinchorri Crisis" The Exar Kun war, The Bane War, The Mandalorian War....

EU even contradicts itself Like the idea that People called themselves Darth after Bane but that in KOTOR the Sith Lords are called Darth too....

I believe that their is more to this puzzle. The Republic had to have reformed more than twice, it makes no since. BTW, lets deal with the whole canon issue right now, if the official website puts it in the data banks,realizing it, leaving it their for thousands of people to see, lets say its canon, what else are we going to say? The official site wasted time in posting this and that it doesn't/ didn't happen. No, from now on if it is posted its canon, and my dear friends, everything KotOR is posted. Agreed.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No it isn't. Despite all you say, everything we said above holds. The current version of the Republic dates from 1000 years ago. That is from the films. The Republic has existed in some form or other for a thousand generations- about 25000 years. That is from the films. These are undeniable facts.

Therefore Sio and Palpatine are not wrong in the slightest- they are dating it from the most recent inception. Any non-film source which says this more recent inception does not exist is therefore wrong. And so therefore the only possibly erroneous source is the (often fallible) info on the website.

No continuity issue.

Your right, he's wrong. Shame your a KotOR hater though. Sucks to find the movie being wrong doesnt, movie fans.

This is a pointless discussion, really. Ush pretty much has it nailed, and in any case, the argument could go either way and what happens? Nothing. Anomaly, as much as you dislike EU it will stand. After all, it makes money. And the movies will stop selling eventually, so I hope you enjoy them while they last.

Originally posted by Nactous
I believe that their is more to this puzzle. The Republic had to have reformed more than twice, it makes no since. BTW, lets deal with the whole canon issue right now, if the official website puts it in the data banks,realizing it, leaving it their for thousands of people to see, lets say its canon, what else are we going to say? The official site wasted time in posting this and that it doesn't/ didn't happen. No, from now on if it is posted its canon, and my dear friends, everything KotOR is posted. Agreed.

The website is not canon in any way. Please read the thread about canon in the main SW areas.

And I never said I hated KOTOR.

Re: EU Continuity problem in KOTOR?

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Ok well apparently Im known as an “EU hater” around these parts.

This is not necessarily to bash EU. However I noticed something that seems to contradict what EU says. Mainly in KOTOR.

We all know that EU is semi-canon (not actual canon but secondary to the movies)

And that EU generally has to follow the movies “canon”

Now feel free to correct anything wrong with my KOTOR stuff as I’ve played it but never beat it myself, though I know the story line for the most part.

However, in KOTOR there is a war. The Sith war? (if I’m right)

Now if I’m correct it’s the Sith against the Republic. No problems so far, right? Wrong.

Now correct me if I’m wrong but the Sith wars in KOTOR would prolly constitute a full scale
In Episode II, Sio Bibble, the governor of Naboo says this:

”Its unthinkable, there hasn’t been a full scale war since the formation of the Republic!”
war would they not? I’m pretty damn sure it would seeing as the Republic was almost defeated and the Jedi numbers were dwindling.

This means then that continuity wise, KOTOR doesn’t check out. Since the Sith wars were about what 4000 years before Eps I? (correct if im wrong)

The Rebublic had been around for about 10,000 years as of Eps I.

So if in the “absolute canon” movies, there had not been a full scale war since the formation of the Republic, then how could only 4000 years before that, could there be a full scale war that nearly destroyed the Republic?

It makes no sense.

This is just something I noticed about continuity of EU….

FIRST: Palpatine said 1,000 years.
SECOND: Obviousally, The Republic has ben destroyed more than once!

Originally posted by Nactous
I believe that their is more to this puzzle. The Republic had to have reformed more than twice, it makes no since. BTW, lets deal with the whole canon issue right now, if the official website puts it in the data banks,realizing it, leaving it their for thousands of people to see, lets say its canon, what else are we going to say? The official site wasted time in posting this and that it doesn't/ didn't happen. No, from now on if it is posted its canon, and my dear friends, everything KotOR is posted. Agreed.

OH YEA, GO NACTOUS!

Re: EU Continuity problem in KOTOR?

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Ok well apparently Im known as an “EU hater” around these parts.

This is not necessarily to bash EU. However I noticed something that seems to contradict what EU says. Mainly in KOTOR.

We all know that EU is semi-canon (not actual canon but secondary to the movies)

And that EU generally has to follow the movies “canon”

Now feel free to correct anything wrong with my KOTOR stuff as I’ve played it but never beat it myself, though I know the story line for the most part.

However, in KOTOR there is a war. The Sith war? (if I’m right)

Now if I’m correct it’s the Sith against the Republic. No problems so far, right? Wrong.

In Episode II, Sio Bibble, the governor of Naboo says this:

”Its unthinkable, there hasn’t been a full scale war since the formation of the Republic!”

Now correct me if I’m wrong but the Sith wars in KOTOR would prolly constitute a full scale war would they not? I’m pretty damn sure it would seeing as the Republic was almost defeated and the Jedi numbers were dwindling.

This means then that continuity wise, KOTOR doesn’t check out. Since the Sith wars were about what 4000 years before Eps I? (correct if im wrong)

The Rebublic had been around for about 10,000 years as of Eps I.

So if in the “absolute canon” movies, there had not been a full scale war since the formation of the Republic, then how could only 4000 years before that, could there be a full scale war that nearly destroyed the Republic?

It makes no sense.

This is just something I noticed about continuity of EU….

First, it's a exaggeration most likely on his part saying that there hasn't been a full scale war since the creation of the Republic, and since Lucas checks most of the EU, and I believe that they would check KOTOR, then htat statement would be false and how in the fvck wuold there be no full scale war since the formation of the Republic? That even goes against the rest of the films.

Re: Re: EU Continuity problem in KOTOR?

Originally posted by JLRTENJAC
FIRST: Palpatine said 1,000 years.
SECOND: Obviousally, The Republic has ben destroyed more than once!

No, not according to any EU (that I know of) and official website states only 2 official formations. the old republic, (of 25,000 years) and the new one after ROTJ.

the republic has survived ALL of these attacks, other then palpatine's.

there would be no new formation after a war, that'd be like the USA saying, ok. we just fought Iraq, so fire all of congress, all the senators and fire the president, we need to hold new elections and reform the state.

it makes no sense, there are 2 formations, Old and new. Old (according to EU is 25,000) and new is still ongoing....

now what i'm saying is that officially according to the movies, the republic is ONLY 1000 years old. but according to EU its 25,000

so already theres a contridiction between Canon and EU. (because a republic older then 1,000 years in never mentioned.)

however, Sio's line still stands, if you include EU and disregard what palps says. then it still makes no sense, because the formaton of the republic was 25,000 years before that, and there were in fact many wars.

so its just a huge bunch of contradicting points.

Don't try to make sense of Star Wars, it's impossible. I've tried.

yes, it is if you include EU

if you just take the movies, there fine (other then the many many plot holes present) but adding EU makes things 10 times worse...lol

Tulak, do you believe that if its posted on the OS it's canon?

Depends. I believe it when it's not too far-fetched. But some shit about Tenel Ka's saber being Rainbow, I dun't understand that.

Okay guys, hypothetically speaking, if I ever got to sit down, and talk to GL, and got in writing of him listing EU that he believes to be "canon". Would you all consider it to be? Hmmm... "Tenel Ka's, name sounds familer.

She was in the Young Jedi Knight series of books. Supposedly, she has a rainbow lightsaber with a rancor-tooth hilt. I don't know of any rainbow crystals, tho it may be possible to modify a certain crystal or gem to work with a saber.

Hmm..., I read the one about Obi-Wans lightsaber being found by Anakin Solo.

Boooooooo *Throws popcorn and 'maters at anakin solo* Anakin Solo can suck the open end of his lightsaber and hit the ignition switch.

Sorry, must be a touchy subject.

Lemme say this much. Chewbacca. Anakin was too wussy to wait for Chewie. Had to leave Chewie behind. I hate Anakin as much as I hate...um....well....I hate him the most. Chewie deserved to live. I hate the author of Vector prime.