Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
well, I hate EU, so I dont read it. I just went with what I know from the movies.
Oh great. Now sum it up: You come here, assume there is a continuity problem in the EU WITHOUT knowing anything about the EU ? That's what I call "smart".
in which there is a contradiction.
As I told you: There is not.
oh, btw, where are these "other" formations mentioned anyways?
Old Republic: KotoR, several comic books (Tales of the Jedi basically)
Post Ruusan Republic: Anything about the Ruusan Reformation is mentioned in the "Power of the Jedi" sourcebook. That's the republic of the prequel trilogy.
New Republic: Any EU stuff that happened past ROTJ (heir to the empire, Dark Empire comics and so on...)
GFFA: New Jedi Order series
There is one thing about KOTOR I don't like, and it's confusing. When you speak to Jolee enough times, he talks about "his friend" the blind jedi master who pointed the wrong way for a new jedi. But if you ask him "Did you know this jedi master, or this apprentice" he says "Nononono, they were way before my time". Did I mishear/misread something or is he really senile?
Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Oh great. Now sum it up: You come here, assume there is a continuity problem in the EU WITHOUT knowing anything about the EU ? That's what I call "smart".As I told you: There is not.
Old Republic: KotoR, several comic books (Tales of the Jedi basically)
Post Ruusan Republic: Anything about the Ruusan Reformation is mentioned in the "Power of the Jedi" sourcebook. That's the republic of the prequel trilogy.
New Republic: Any EU stuff that happened past ROTJ (heir to the empire, Dark Empire comics and so on...)
GFFA: New Jedi Order series
"thats what I call smart?"
F**K off *******. go to the Eps. III forum, (or any of the Canon forums) and lets have an argument, I'd crucify you.
the fact is THERE IS a contridiction in the movies THEMSELVES, not including EU.
i guess thats the beauty of EU though, people (if a contridicion is spotted) can just make somehting else up if they feel like it /sarcastic/
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
haah! so im supposed to be like "ohhhh hes a mod" making him automatically right!, I dont care who he is.his arguments meen nothing more then anyone elses.
his job is to make sure this area stays on topic, and that there are no stupid threads, move threads, etc.
this in no way makes him more right then a person who just joined KMC today.
I mean i've been her for 2 years more then you have Revan, does that make me more right then you?
no...
The fact that I construct a cogent argument is what makes me more right than you.
Your argument is ridiculous. There is no contradiction unless you deliberately wish to see one. The movies do not contradict, they only lead us to an obvious conclusion- than an anicent Republic has been re-founded at least once. The EU may contradict with the canon many times, but this is not one of those places.
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
[B]"thats what I call smart?"F**K off *******. go to the Eps. III forum, (or any of the Canon forums) and lets have an argument, I'd crucify you.
No. You won't. And there is no reason to get insulting. You came here to make a thread about the EU without knowing the EU and that is like somebody would enter the canon forums without having watched the movies.
the fact is THERE IS a contridiction in the movies THEMSELVES, not including EU.
Now...look at the title of this thread here. If you just wanted to talk about a contradiction in the movies you are obviously on the wrong forum, aren't you ? And it seems strange if somebody known as "EU hater" steps in here and basicaly says nearly everything that did happen in the EU before the times of the PT could not have happened.
i guess thats the beauty of EU though, people (if a contridicion is spotted) can just make somehting else up if they feel like it /sarcastic/
I gave you the EU facts about that topic. You can accept them or not.
hummm.....
maybe i will, for i see that you people are incapable of being at all civil and for no reason like to insult people. which, in responce, gets insults from me, and in turn creates pointless squabbling.
as for Ushgarak, you say a "cogent argument " you have no idea who your talking too, MY LIFE IS AGRUMENTS. thats what I do, I specilize in both Inductive and deductive argumentation. as thats what I've studied for all of my post secondary career. I will tell you that i refrain from agruing formally here becasue none of you would prolly have any sort of idea what im talking about, as it is more like a math equation. and might I point out that an "obvious conclusion" means nothing. there are still no facts, you are talking in hearsay, using opinions to formulate a very unstable inductive argument, because in fact, as i said, all of what you say is hearsay, and I only go with known truths. as for they are the only things that can leave any sort of stable inductive argument. and the only known facts in the movies is that the republic is apparently 1000 years, as well as seveal hundered generations. which leads to a completley illogical conclusion, that the movies contrdict, as I said.
now we might "say" (as you have) that something like another formation happend in the Canon movies, but as i said this is all hearsay, and while it makes sense, is based upon no fact, other then semi-plausable reasons based upon your opinion.
now apparently with EU this problem is cleared up. sort of.
as for me doing my "homework" i must tell you that Im not going to go and read every bit of EU out there (as most of it is not worth my time) nor do I have the time to do such things anyways. some people have lives outside of reading star wars books.
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
This is like the second or third time he's come in here to make trouble.
maybe you should READ what i had said, in no way did i "come here to make trouble"
I saw a contridiction in EU so i pointed it out.
your bias attitude towards me is quite annoying.
I'd assume had i created any sort of thread you'd have said the same thing.
which is sad really, becasue as of right now, i dont care what you say becasue of your attitude towards me. which is completly wrong as well.
since it would seem that you think im doing something that in no way had i intened to do.
you are quite quick to judge a person, which is your problem i guess.
(With JanusEdit)
maybe i will, for i see that you people are incapable of being at all civil and for no reason like to insult people. which, in responce, gets insults from me, and in turn creates pointless squabbling. (Nice self-victimization. Take your ball and go home.)
as for Ushgarak, you say a "cogent argument " you have no idea who your talking too, MY LIFE IS AGRUMENTS. (Your life is arguments? I can see why.)
thats what I do, I specilize in both Inductive and deductive argumentation. (Then why does your logic suck? I took logic courses and it sure as hell looks like Ush and Illustrious have know-how in the reasoning field. And last time I checked we all disagree with you.)
as thats what I've studied for all of my post secondary career. and might I point out that an "obvious conclusion" means nothing. (Elaborate, professor.)
there are still no facts, you are talking in hearsay, using opinions to formulate a very unstable inductive argument, because in fact, as i said, all of what you say is hearsay, and I only go with known truths. (If you only go with known truths, why even make any assumptions? In fact, why use Sio Bibble as the resident expert? KNown truths... right)
as for they are the only things that can leave any sort of stable inductive argument. (inductive arguments can only be done with all the facts at hand. All the facts are NOT at hand here, so the reasoning must be deductive. Nice try, poser)
and the only known facts in the movies is that the republic is apparently 1000 years, as well as seveal hundered generations. which leads to a completley illogical conclusion, that the movies contrdict, as I said. (Uh huh)
now we might "say" (as you have) that something like another formation happend in the Canon movies, but as i said this is all hearsay, and while it makes sense, is based upon no fact, other then semi-plausable reasons based upon your opinion. Elaborate on this again, professor)
now apparently with EU this problem is cleared up. sort of.
as for me doing my "homework" i must tell you that Im not going to go and read every bit of EU out there (as most of it is not worth my time) nor do I have the time to do such things anyways. some people have lives outside of reading star wars books. (If you don't have all the facts, keep your damn mouth shut. They teach you that in logics course.... don't they? Or did you attend the Reasoning and Rational Thought College at Asswad, Canada?)
maybe you should READ what i had said, in no way did i "come here to make trouble" (Human Vader: Maybe you should read the posts you made after that, saying how EU people "make up things" when they contradict your opinion.)
I saw a contridiction in EU so i pointed it out.
your bias attitude towards me is quite annoying. (Human Vader: You actually wasted your time typing up a response to the little sentence Janus posted? How sad.)
I'd assume had i created any sort of thread you'd have said the same thing. (Human Vader: I agree, because you probably would have ended up insulting EU fans the same way you did here.)
which is sad really, becasue as of right now, i dont care what you say becasue of your attitude towards me. which is completly wrong as well. (Human Vader: You don't care what he says, yet you responded to his post.......)
since it would seem that you think im doing something that in no way had i intened to do. (Human Vader: Your intentions are irrelevent, because you did insult EU.)
you are quite quick to judge a person, which is your problem i guess. (Human Vader: Judging one by one's actions is hardly "quick"😉
"(If you don't have all the facts, keep your damn mouth shut. They teach you that in logics course.... don't they? Or did you attend the Reasoning and Rational Thought College at Asswad, Canada?)"
wow, my point is made. "asswad Canada"? you had quoted something that could have come from my 8 year old brother. bravo. your intelligence is quite amazing, i dare say that i could come up with nothing more mature then "asswad Canada"...
as for "having all the facts" no, not nessassary to argue effectivly, only specific points are needed. actually i could argue with no knowledge about what im arguing about at all. but you wouldent know what im talking about, i could show you, but someone with the wit to come up with "asswad canada" surley already is far above my maturity and intelligence level anyhow.