Mace Wendu Stronger than Palpatine

Started by Tecnodimerda8 pages

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Well i think that Palpatine is indeed more powerful: with the lightsaber as in terms of using the force. For me (and as it seems for a majority of other people) it's obvious that Palpatine is VERY powerful: In times when the jedi order is fully integrated in a republic, he manages so hide his true identity from EVERY jedi. He unfolds his masterly thought out plan during the time of years. Not even Master Yoda senses the dark side around him.

His fight against Yoda shows, that he and the green one are even with the saber. For me Yoda has always been the most powerful jedi ever. Yoda's skill with the saber and his force powers are IMO more than well shown in the movies. I really have trouble seeing why Windu shoud be better with the saber if you watch the movies (unless there's some fancy EU - Book saying otherwise...well see my post above...)

Just for fun now my personal rankings after the prequels:

1. Darth Sidious / Yoda
(Sidious has the advantage cause yoda underestimated him. Yoda flees to save himself: a wise choice showing his superiority over other jedi)
2. Mace Windu
3. Obi-Wan Kenobi
I don't want to say that he's clearly better than Anakin. But his greatest strenght is his calm and his wisdom - not his skil with the saber.
the duel on mustafar: Anakin and him were equal. It was his superior experience that helped him survive.
4. Anakin Skywalker
The Chosen One. He has the biggest potential of all the jedi (and sith).
If he didn't turn to the dark side, he would be better than yoda, sidious and mace together after a few more years of training....

Yup, I totally agree with you , Tec. 😄

i also agree

A LONG TIME AGO, IN A GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY...

STAR WARS
EPISODE III
REVENGE OF THE SITH

Palpatine was playing Mace Windu the entire time. Here is my proof, which Devil Dodo was also providing, for you to ignore it was very silly and pointless...

At the start of the fight, Palpatine whips out his lightsaber and in two or three swings, he manages to stab Agen Kolar and Saesee Tiin, both accomplished swordsmen, Jedi Masters, and Council members. They die in mere seconds after the fight begins. After sparring with Mace and Kit Fisto for a few moments, he manages to slash Kit Fisto across the stomach, and he too is an accomplished swordsman, Jedi Master, and Council member.

Now, Mace Windu goes on the retreat, Palpatine pushing him back.

At this point, we see Anakin debating whether he should be there or not, and he leaves the Temple.

Also at this point, Mace Windu starts to own Palpatine. Why? Because Palpatine can sense Anakin is on his way.

They continue fighting, Mace smashes the window approximately the same time as Anakin's landing. Palpatine loses his lightsaber just seconds before Anakin walks in. Why? Because Palpatine can sense Anakin is in the building.

Mace Windu has Palpatine at lightsaber point, and is ready to kill him. Anakin says that they shouldn't, it's not the Jedi way. Palpatine starts pleading for his life like a cowardly fool, after his face-melting barrage of lightning, but constantly looks to Anakin with an insidious glare after each whiney, begging comment about the Jedi trying to kill him and take over the Republic.

When Anakin takes action and literally disarms Mace Windu, Palpatine springs to his feet as if he had been winning the entire time. Palpatine cooks Mace Windu like a large black sausage, then hurls him out the window. Mace Windu, lacking an arm and in intense pain from the lightning assault, falls to his death, unable to do anything to stop his fall.

Later on, Palpatine fights Yoda. During this fight, they are sparring equally the entire time. Palpatine and Yoda meet one another blow for blow, and though you can tell Palpatine fears Yoda, fear can always be turned to the advantage of a Sith Lord; they feed their powers off of negative emotion. In the end, Yoda is defeated, because Sidious has disarmed his lightsaber and tossed him a very long way to the bottom of the Senate chambers. Sidious, once again, is victorious.

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Summary: Palpatine easily kills three Jedi Masters, they begins to lose when he senses Anakin leaving the Temple, and then begins his ploy to pull Anakin to the Dark Side by putting his own life at risk.

Yes, he could have lost everything. Yes, Anakin could have not turned, and Mace would have killed Palpatine. Yes, Palpatine put all his plans at great risk to turn the Chosen One to the Dark Side. No, he is not weak. No, Mace Windu did not beat him.

Rex, this is so amazingly good. Finally, someone put it into plain english so everyone can understand...

you cannot dispute this, it is indeed so obviously true...

i think this thread is done upon reading this...

bravo.

For someone who has only posted 7 times on KMC, most of them here, Tec seems to know what he's taking about.

Haha, thanks Anomaly. I've been posting it in just about every 'Mace Wins, Palps Sucks!' thread...

i wonder what anakin's reaction would've been had he walked in a saw palpy duelling it out with mace rather than lying there helpless.

Originally posted by mysterio69
i wonder what anakin's reaction would've been had he walked in a saw palpy duelling it out with mace rather than lying there helpless.

And if he saw the three dead bodies lopped on the floor.

And the fact that Palpatine is evil. 😛

To answer your last couple posts, rex, I don't think sidious sucked, on the contrary, Heck i think hes in the tops 3 of the sith lords(including vader as first 😉 ) but i just look at it in a different angle, its just that u see it one way, and ill always see it the other way. 😉

Originally posted by matreid
And don't dis Ast Rofan, he's way cooler than you!

Oh! I'M SORRY COOLNESS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN AN ANSWER! LOL 😉

Originally posted by matreid
It's called an opinion!😕

o and to answer yours wen u said dooko is far better than windu, i thought u were stating it as fact, but if its an opinion thats kewl.

Originally posted by Aduruth
Oh! I'M SORRY COOLNESS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN AN ANSWER! LOL 😉

Well maybe I think it is!schmoll

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lol, whater, lol 😉 well back to the thread, anyone else wanna state their opinion, lol.

Ooookay then...

Originally posted by Aduruth
lol, whater, lol 😉 well back to the thread, anyone else wanna state their opinion, lol.

My opinion, Palpatine was toying with Mace. 😄

My opinion, Ast is completely right, go read my argument or die.

My opinion, I agree with Ast and Rex and Anomaly and Tec.

But mostly Rex, right? 😄

But of course 😎

I think that if Mace went solo(just like Yoda and Obiwan) he would have faired much better agianst Palpatine. "Your partner can be as much as a danger and a distraction to you as to your enemy."- Kungfu saying.

Those other 3 Masters shoulda just stayed at the Temple and help attempt to fend of Lord Vader and his legion of clones...I doubt they woulda made a difference, but still.....