Plastic Man vs. Hulk

Started by whirlysplat15 pages

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Iron Man beat Hulk by siphoning his energy, weakening him.

I'm sure this was no normal pacemaker. It was created by Iron Man for christ's sake. How do you figure Plasticman is as durable as Iron Man's device, or is as resistant to corrosion as any metal?


No your getting your issues very confused CC
Banner came to Stark asking if he would help cure him.
Tony and Bruce thought if they could keep Bruce's pulse down it would stop him changing. The Pacemaker was put in Bruce but his G radiation caused it to make his heart beat faster. He was in a permanently enraged state caused by the pacemaker. Tony believes he would never calm down and puts all his strength into one punch. Knocking Hulk out.

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Originally posted by demigawd
It allows him to build up oxygen in his lungs, but the emulsion would allow him to convert water into oxygen. THAT'S why it works underwater. THAT'S why it would not work in space. And THAT'S why PAD phrased it as such.

Then why has it worked in space, demi? If Hulk has had this ability all along, why would he need an oxygen mask? The whole perflurocarbon emulsification process is a poor explanation. The answer is simple. Inconsistency. Hulk is just as inconsistent as any other superhero. It tends to happen when multiple writers are involved. It has been explicitly stated and shown that Superman needs to breath. Then, he goes on to live in the sun for thousands of years. Explanation? Inconsistency.

I know exactly what perfluorocarbon emulsion does. It merely improves oxygen absorption, which would allow Hulk to breath underwater. Water is not a necessary agent. I don't want to make this a biology debate. Is there any explanation why Hulk has been able to 'breath' in space?

Originally posted by demigawd
Peter Allen David, the premier WRITER of Hulk for YEARS, wouldn't need to speculate on any of that if it were "already established" that Hulk gets everything from extradimensional sources, now would he? You don't see people speculating on why Juggernaut doesn't need to breathe, right? No. Why? Because the gem protects him. You do read speculation on why Hulk can now breath underwater. Why? Because he hadn't been able to in the past.

Peter David has not been the Hulk's only writer for years, so inconsistency is bound to occur. Hulk has been 'breathing' underwater and in space since Tales to Astonish. It's nothing new. He has, however, been very inconsistent with this ability. That doesn't mean that he didn't possess it.

Hulk's energy source is extradimensional.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Then why has it worked in space, demi? If Hulk has had this ability all along, why would he need an oxygen mask? The whole perflurocarbon emulsification process is a poor explanation. The answer is simple. Inconsistency. Hulk is just as inconsistent as any other superhero. It tends to happen when multiple writers are involved. It has been explicitly stated and shown that Superman needs to breath. Then, he goes on to live in the sun for thousands of years. Explanation? Inconsistency.

I know exactly what perfluorocarbon emulsion does. It merely improves oxygen absorption, which would allow Hulk to breath underwater. Water is not a necessary agent. I don't want to make this a biology debate. Is there any explanation why Hulk has been able to 'breath' in space?

Peter David has not been the Hulk's only writer for years, so inconsistency is bound to occur. Hulk has been 'breathing' underwater and in space since Tales to Astonish. It's nothing new. He has, however, been very inconsistent with this ability. That doesn't mean that he didn't possess it.

Whats wrong with you CC no rebuttle to my post🙂

Maybe I missed it somewhere but can some answer a question for me cause I dont read Hulk anymore.

Does he need to breathe or not?

In case you can't make out the text...

Surfer: How interesting. Now that I have a chance to study the quantum-flux around you at close range, the phenomenon grows more baffling. The energy that you are generating appears to have a quality that is almost inter-dimensional.

That's just one instance. It isn't jargon simply because you were unaware of it.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
No your getting your issues very confused CC
Banner came to Stark asking if he would help cure him.
Tony and Bruce thought if they could keep Bruce's pulse down it would stop him changing. The Pacemaker was put in Bruce but his G radiation caused it to make his heart beat faster. He was in a permanently enraged state caused by the pacemaker. Tony believes he would never calm down and puts all his strength into one punch. Knocking Hulk out.

Keep the faith😄

Stay Whirly 🤘

Know Comics😄

In Iron Man #131. Iron Man was trying to help Bruce cure himself by implanting a device in him that kept his brain from releasing the chemicals that trigger the change. It wasn't a pacemaker at all.

I would have to read 132 and 133. I've only seen a few scans. Do you have any?

He dont seem to be breathing too well in this pic.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Maybe I missed it somewhere but can some answer a question for me cause I dont read Hulk anymore.

Does he need to breathe or not?

It's in question right now.

Apparently, it depends on the writer.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He dont seem to be breathing too well in this pic.

He's doing fine here.

And here...

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
He's doing fine here.
He didnt have anybody holding him by his neck either.

He can hold his breathe for awhile so that pic dont prove anything.

He even says he cannot say out there forever or something.( kinda hard to read)

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
In Iron Man #131. Iron Man was trying to help Bruce cure himself by implanting a device in him that kept his brain from releasing the chemicals that trigger the change. It wasn't a pacemaker at all.

I would have to read 132 and 133. I've only seen a few scans. Do you have any?

I have all the comics but ninety nine percent of my comics are in my parents loft(in Mylar in Boxes) I only a fraction of my collection about (only about 4000 issues) with me😄

Keep the faith😄

You can check it ouot online I suspect though

Stay Whirly🤘

I posted this already I think but here he takes a breath of air hoping to avoid some sleeping gas.

Why did he need to take a breathe of air if he dont need to breathe?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He didnt have anybody holding him by his neck either.

He can hold his breathe for awhile so that pic dont prove anything.

He even says he cannot say out there forever or something.( kinda hard to read)

He's in space, snoop.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
He's in space, snoop.
Superman goes into space also.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I posted this already I think but here he takes a breath of air hoping to avoid some sleeping gas.

Why did he need to take a breathe of air if he dont need to breathe?

It's a crossover. A Marvel vs. DC crossover, no less. At least show Hulk needing to breath in continuity. It has happened.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Superman goes into space also.

Superman lived in the sun for over one thousand years, also.

Your point?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He didnt have anybody holding him by his neck either.

He can hold his breathe for awhile so that pic dont prove anything.

He even says he cannot say out there forever or something.( kinda hard to read)

He says he doesn't want to drift through space forever. He says nothing about needing to breath.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
I have all the comics but ninety nine percent of my comics are in my parents loft(in Mylar in Bags in Plastic Boxes) I only a fraction of my collection about (only about 4000 issues) with me😄

Keep the faith😄

You can check it ouot online I suspect though

Stay Whirly🤘