Originally posted by demigawd
That he's not really in space. In the case of the missle, it's pretty easy to believe that he hadn't actually officially broken out of the atmosphere yet - he was in the 50 mile range or so, so that it looks "space like". Certainly, it's beyond the capability for a regular person to live, but Hulk can still breathe there AND talk there and have the conversation understood.In the case of the scan where he's escaped into space, I'd conjecture that it should actually be thought bubbles, since he's not talking to anybody. And in that case, he's holding his breath, too.
Or, we could say that the PFC is a temporary aid to explain away doing what he's doing for some length of time, which is what I guess PAD was angling for.
Either way, it seems there's a more credible argument for Hulk, on a regular basis, needing to breathe than not needing to breathe, unless there are explicit statements beyond just artwork that say otherwise. The topic has been explicitly addressed in Superman...the same would have to happen for me to believe that it was intentional that Hulk was made to not need to breathe, ever.
Sorry, no scanner handy. But I provided issue numbers for you, so it's easy to research and prove whether or not I'm lying.
I do believe that Hulk can hold his breath for a very long time if he takes a deep breath in. When he chooses to go out in space or underwater, I imagine he takes in a breath and can hold it for hours. It's when he's caught by surprise that he seems to struggle. Our scans all seem to dovetail nicely to show that, so it's not entirely inconsistent.
If you get the jump on Hulk and cut his air supply off, he can be put down.
If Hulk enters an airless environment, he can stay there with the air he's collected beforehand for a VERY long time (but he still ultimately needs to breathe).
That's the conclusion I've reached from all of this. What's your conclusion?
Some annual or other. I've read it, that's how I remember the details about it, but I'm going to have to go through my collection (again) to find the exact issue number.
In the first scan I provided Hulk said "there's nothing out here but empty space!" He was nowhere near the Earth. He's in the vacuum of deep space.
Perhaps they should be thought bubbles, as you have stated in your opinion, but the fact remains that they aren't. You're assuming that comic book science is actually consistent to real science, which it certainly isn't. It's clear that in comics the presence of air, liquid, etc. is not necessary for sound waves to be carried.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
In the first scan I provided Hulk said "there's nothing out here but empty space!" He was nowhere near the Earth. He's in the vacuum of deep space.Perhaps they should be thought bubbles, as you have stated in your opinion, but the fact remains that they aren't. You're assuming that comic book science is actually consistent to real science, which it certainly isn't. It's clear that in comics the presence of air, liquid, etc. is not necessary for sound waves to be carried.
Well, if he can talk in an environment where sound doesn't travel (which is impossible), then he can talk while holding his breath (which is equally impossible), lol.
Honestly, I see no other way to reconcile this. It just seems that the evidence seems to more closely suggest that there is some element of breathing required for Hulk. Do you agree or no?
Originally posted by demigawd
Well, if he can talk in an environment where sound doesn't travel (which is impossible), then he can talk while holding his breath (which is equally impossible), lol.Honestly, I see no other way to reconcile this. It just seems that the evidence seems to more closely suggest that there is some element of breathing required for Hulk. Do you agree or no?
Did you see my scan of Silver Surfer and Quasar? Opinions?
Hulk is notarized for doing the impossible. Holding his breath for any amount of time, or even living without breathing is well within his character. If Hulk can develop a gland that allows him to breathe underwater, why wouldn't he be able to magically develop a gland that can recycle carbon dioxide gas? Cellular decomposition is one of the main drawbacks of oxygen deprivation. If Hulk's cells are indeed being replaced from an extradimensional source, why would oxygen deprivation be an issue? It would certainly explain his apparent ability to hold his breath indefinitely. Just for the sake of debate.
Seriously. Try it!!! It totally works.
Time how long you can hold your breath.
Now, rest for a few minutes
Now, time how long you can hold your breath while reading this post.
There is some diminished capacity, but not that much. If Hulk can hold his breath for, say, five hours, he can hold it and talk for 3-4.
Originally posted by demigawd
Hey, you know, something just occurred to me....you actually CAN talk while holding your breath. You just sound like a robot when doing it. If Hulk can hold his breath for hours, then talking a bit would cut a few minutes off of it, but it's not impossible. Try it!
Demi I love you ( in a manly herosexual way) you tried it didn't you 😆
Originally posted by demigawd
Seriously. Try it!!! It totally works.Time how long you can hold your breath.
Now, rest for a few minutes
Now, time how long you can hold your breath while reading this post.There is some diminished capacity, but not that much. If Hulk can hold his breath for, say, five hours, he can hold it and talk for 3-4.
Respond my previous post, demi. disgust
Originally posted by demigawd
Seriously. Try it!!! It totally works.Time how long you can hold your breath.
Now, rest for a few minutes
Now, time how long you can hold your breath while reading this post.There is some diminished capacity, but not that much. If Hulk can hold his breath for, say, five hours, he can hold it and talk for 3-4.
Once again hilarious 😆
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Did you see my scan of Silver Surfer and Quasar? Opinions?
I addressed that in a previous post. The posting volume on the thread during that time may have caused you to miss it.
Hulk is notarized for doing the impossible. Holding his breath for any amount of time, or even living without breathing is well within his character.
I would agree only if he's shown the ability to never be KO'ed by lack of air. It happens often enough that I'd actually go as far as to classify that as a weakness.
If Hulk can develop a gland that allows him to breathe underwater, why wouldn't he be able to magically develop a gland that can recycle carbon dioxide gas? Cellular decomposition is one of the main drawbacks of oxygen deprivation.
A possible theory, but even then, it's nothing that can be sustained indefinitely, so it doesn't contribute to your point that he doesn't need air at all.
If Hulk's cells are indeed being replaced from an extradimensional source, why would oxygen deprivation be an issue? It would certainly explain his apparent ability to hold his breath indefinitely. Just for the sake of debate.
The HR extradimensional source thing has since been resolved. It was killing him, so they had to sever the link. No more extradimensional supply.
Originally posted by demigawd
I addressed that in a previous post. The posting volume on the thread during that time may have caused you to miss it.I would agree only if he's shown the ability to never be KO'ed by lack of air. It happens often enough that I'd actually go as far as to classify that as a weakness.
A possible theory, but even then, it's nothing that can be sustained indefinitely, so it doesn't contribute to your point that he doesn't need air at all.
The HR extradimensional source thing has since been resolved. It was killing him, so they had to sever the link. No more extradimensional supply.
Every writer isn't doing to write Hulk exactly the same. His power levels vary drastically. Hulk has had countless fights in outer space, and never had a problem with breathing in any of them.
Hulk has been KOed by Doctor Octopus. Hulk has withstood a planet rending blast without so much as flinching. Inconsistency happens. Hulk has shown that he needs to breath under water. Peter David just said that he doesn't. Inconsistencies happen.
The Heroes reborn universe is not the one I'm referring to. Marvel has attested that Hulk's additional mass and energy comes from an extra dimensional source, prior to the Onslaught Saga. The Hero's reborn universe's energy was not what was killing Hulk. It was separation from Bruce Banner. The blast that destroyed onslaught separated the two. The source of Hulk's power is not the Heroes reborn universe.
Originally posted by demigawd
Quasar's bio says that he surrounds himself with a field that enables himself and others to breathe, similar to what GL does. Most likely, Surfer is in that field with him, not because Surfer needs to breathe, but because he can communicate with Quasar.
Sort of an oxygen field? Never heard of it before. It must carry sound waves. Nevertheless, I can show you more scans defying this law.