Originally posted by CorderaMitchellHe's also fast enough to give Spiderman problems. . .
Yep thats the poor misleading example I'm talking about, wolverine moving faster than the eye can see, would imply that he, a humaniod figure, would be moving several times the speed of sound.A blur isn't that fast necessarily, I wave my hand in front of my face and thats a blur, I take pictures of blurs all of the time, but faster than the eye can detect is another thing.
I think that what's happeneing here is an attmept to establish that Spiderman is so much faster Wolverine can't give him problems. But he does, he may not be as fast as Spiderman, but you are still underrating Wolverine's speed in order to give Spiderman more elbow room.
Originally posted by Creshosk
He's also fast enough to give Spiderman problems. . .I think that what's happeneing here is an attmept to establish that Spiderman is so much faster Wolverine can't give him problems. But he does, he may not be as fast as Spiderman, but you are still underrating Wolverine's speed in order to give Spiderman more elbow room.
Nah, I know he can give him problems in low gear, but not in high.
Spiderman in high gear can bound a parking lot, that gun pic is a poor reference, because noone can accurately say that wolverine moves faster than the eye can see, unless they're blind themselves.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNot even Marvel?
Nah, I know he can give him problems in low gear, but not in high.Spiderman in high gear can bound a parking lot, that gun pic is a poor reference, because noone can accurately say that wolverine moves faster than the eye can see, unless they're blind themselves.
Is your hatred of the character that strong?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Not even Marvel?Is your hatred of the character that strong?
I've already been here, wolvie is my main char on marvel vs capcom, and i love reading him, like New and ultimate xmen, but as far as debating him with some people, it leaves much to be desired.
Anyway SubjectA, Subject B
I can make a list a mile long on who beat who, but presented with the evidence, I can trust theyd win, and would bet on them.
When I said blind, I meant "gunmen" in your example.
Just to clear that up.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellSomehow I doubt you'd trust the evidence you were presented with if you really didn't want to beleive in that evidence in the first place.
I've already been here, wolvie is my main char on marvel vs capcom, and i love reading him, like New and ultimate xmen, but as far as debating him with some people, it leaves much to be desired.Anyway SubjectA, Subject B
I can make a list a mile long on who beat who, but presented with the evidence, I can trust theyd win, and would bet on them.
When I said blind, I meant "gunmen" in your example.
Just to clear that up.
As has been evidenced by this as well as other cases. You'd rather dismiss evidence that goes against your case. *shrugs*
Originally posted by Creshosk
Somehow I doubt you'd trust the evidence you were presented with if you really didn't want to beleive in that evidence in the first place.As has been evidenced by this as well as other cases. You'd rather dismiss evidence that goes against your case. *shrugs*
What? Its outside of his abilities, I just explained why.
No different than when someone tried to convince me that parker moves at supersonic speeds, I disagreed.
I try to keep away from the xxx, argument, and the cool argument, and stick to tangibles.
Played any good games lately?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellWhere did you explain it?
What? Its outside of his abilities, I just explained why.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellThat was me showing how Strength does not translate into Speed.
No different than when someone tried to convince me that parker moves at supersonic speeds, I disagreed.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellYou mean other than dismissing evidence of what the characters have been shown to accomplish multiple times without much of a reason as to why you're dismissing it?
I try to keep away from the xxx, argument, and the cool argument, and stick to tangibles.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNo, My comp is kaput, So's my cube, and I'm not interested in my ps2 selection at the moment.
Played any good games lately?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellHe can't move faster than the eye because the gunmen must have been blind?
I just explained why wolvie isnt moving faster than the eye can see, and he isnt doing it often in the books, can't go by all writing here.
Yeah that's not blind hatred for the character. . . right. . .
Originally posted by willRulesBecause Wolverine can't dodge four arms at the same time. . . even though he is fast enough to give Spiderman problems?
Ock winsI have already stated why. If it is Ock without adamantium tentacles he wins. If he has them then he wins easily...........
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNot really.
He's not fast enough to move faster than the eye can see, because a humanoid shape would have to move several times the speed of sound thats why.
Sight signals take 50 milliseconds to zip from eye to brain. And then there is the whole regestering that it saw something and then what it saw. . .
Ad 50 miliseconds is much slower than the speed of sound.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNot really, he just needs to move his arm that fast. And not for very long either.
Depends on the size of whats moving, and humanoid shapes need to move hella fast.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellIt happens all the time. Martial artists move their limbs fast all the time. Hell my friend can draw a sword and have it at your neck before you realize what happened.
When has a person EVER moved faster than the eye can see, in plain sight, with NO tricks.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellOnly if you're moving that fast constantly. In short bursts it might be easier.
This means practically invisible.
The eye does not see at light speed. Because the brain still has to interpret that something happened in the first place.
Hell I move fast enough cause I play with my cats and they can move their paws faster than the eye can see. . .
"Snatch the pebble from my hand grasshopper."
Understood, but (as much as I hate to do this).
Spiderman has been clocked at punching mach one, his hands are a blur, and near invisible. But not invisible.
I understand that part, but to say he moves too fast for the eye to see, is out of his abilities, a hand is bad enough.
If ANY of him is visible, than the eye can see, he has not the physical attributes to move that fast, his claws would be the closest thing, and then, ocks are faster.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellThe author who came up with that must have thought that humans see at lightspeed since that's what humans see with.
Understood, but (as much as I hate to do this).Spiderman has been clocked at punching mach one, his hands are a blur, and near invisible. But not invisible.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellIt's not out of his abilities.
I understand that part, but to say he moves too fast for the eye to see, is out of his abilities, a hand is bad enough.
"Snatch the pebble from my hand grasshopper"
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
If ANY of him is visible, than the eye can see, he has not the physical attributes to move that fast, his claws would be the closest thing, and then, ocks are faster.
There's a difference between bending the light around you, moving at lightspeeds, and moving faster than the eye can see.
We do NOT see at light speeds. Wolverine could slash Doc's tenticles apart. it gets easier with each tenticle that goes down.
If two of the tenticles go down then Doc Oc's chances drop significantly.
Or are you saying that Wolverine can't fight two people at the same time?
And yet, he gives Spiderman a hard time. . . does that mean that spiderman isn't as fast as you thought?