Doc Ock Vs Wolverine

Started by EsteemedLeader84 pages
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Kills the ocean floor with a stab...

sneezes so powerful it could put out the sun...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
What are you talking about, running speed.

Spiderman has MUCH better speed in high gear man, and you know it...

I'm talking about overall movement...if you had spiderman swing his arm vs. wolverine do it..than spiderman's only moving 12% faster....that's not THAT much faster. hell even in terms of running speed..a guy who's 12% faster than you does not cross the finish line that far ahead of you....

his stats nor his feats support such an argument...

Originally posted by jinzin
actually they are alot different than wrestling....wrestling chracters have a real name and a wrestling name..they have two different lives....one's to entertain the other's personal...

when comic book characters fight..it's to entertain yes..HOWEVER.it does occur during their actual life experiences.....when they are fighting they are not aware it's for the purposes of entertainment...so your point is irrelivent...

comics are not wrestling.....

Damn you, lol,thats not what I'm saying.

Wrestling has guys that shouldn't win, but do because of their popularity.

Goldberg was my favorite, but would he have logically beaten 12 skilled grapplers, hell no!

People who are new do well against more experienced guys, its to make the match look good....

They are very similar.

spiderman lost to a man in a goblin suit that throws pumpkins

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm talking about overall movement...if you had spiderman swing his arm vs. wolverine do it..than spiderman's only moving 12% faster....that's not THAT much faster. hell even in terms of running speed..a guy who's 12% faster than you does not cross the finish line that far ahead of you....

his stats nor his feats support such an argument...

What are you smoking, the stronger the muscle the faster it moves, if you run by strides he'd win anyway, he'll he can stride and full force jump a small parking lot.

When you use more strength in a hit, does it go faster or slower.

Spiderman also reacts, and has faster reflexes, so he'll attack before wolverine ever would again.

Thats how...

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
sneezes so powerful it could put out the sun...

He can slice into other dimensions...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Damn you, lol,thats not what I'm saying.

Wrestling has guys that shouldn't win, but do because of their popularity.

Goldberg was my favorite, but would he have logically beaten 12 skilled grapplers, hell no!

People who are new do well against more experienced guys, its to make the match look good....

They are very similar.

similar in ways yes...but there is a fundamental difference.....when spiderman fights someone it has actually happened..the outcome of the event was not rigged IN HIS LIFE EXPERIENCE.....

during wrestling the fight is fake, and the wrestlers are aware of that..

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
But wolverine is slower than him, see where that logic fails?

where's your premise?

My premise is from the times they fought and Wolverine dodged spiderman's punches. . .

and that whole "if I give him a second he'll kill me" when wolverine allowed himself to take the beating. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
What are you smoking, the stronger the muscle the faster it moves, if you run by strides he'd win anyway, he'll he can stride and full force jump a small parking lot.

When you use more strength in a hit, does it go faster or slower.

Spiderman also reacts, and has faster reflexes, so he'll attack before wolverine ever would again.

Thats how...

actually when throwing a punch it depends..if you try to use too much raw strength it negates the power while reducing the speed...that argument is horribly flawed man.....

spiderman would obviously win in a foot race....but again in OVERALL movement..in a fight he's only 12% faster....even then that's not much...and even then that's not for long...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine gives Peter troubles. So spiderman is a nonfactor in this.

He gave him troubles, but Wolverine hasn't never defeated him. Ock has defeated Spider-Man more times then Wolverine has done ever. As an old Ock. New Ock, he wa murdering Spider-Man.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He can slice into other dimensions...

and get male goats pregnant

Originally posted by Creshosk
My premise is from the times they fought and Wolverine dodged spiderman's punches. . .

and that whole "if I give him a second he'll kill me" when wolverine allowed himself to take the beating. . .


So what, normal guys dodge spiderman's punches, you don't have to be faster than something to dodge it, like you seem to think.

And your little "example" is no more PIS/CIS, than the xmen fight one, why would spiderman fight up close?

Why didn't logan's skin tear? This is the same guy that shredded Iron Man's 2020 armor...

Originally posted by jinzin
similar in ways yes...but there is a fundamental difference.....when spiderman fights someone it has actually happened..the outcome of the event was not rigged IN HIS LIFE EXPERIENCE.....

during wrestling the fight is fake, and the wrestlers are aware of that..

I'm talking about the writers intenttions are no different than the people who promote the matches.

why are we talking about spidey? ock is the point here.

Originally posted by jinzin
actually when throwing a punch it depends..if you try to use too much raw strength it negates the power while reducing the speed...that argument is horribly flawed man.....

spiderman would obviously win in a foot race....but again in OVERALL movement..in a fight he's only 12% faster....even then that's not much...and even then that's not for long...

Like I said if he reacts and responds in a faster attack, he's faster.

Yes normally, but keep in mind that parkers body is built for his own strength and speed by his own musculstature.

Spiderman can lift and pull himself 5 stories, can they?

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
why are we talking about spidey? ock is the point here.

agreed...

and them is some pretty fast tentacles ✅

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He gave him troubles, but Wolverine hasn't never defeated him. Ock has defeated Spider-Man more times then Wolverine has done ever. As an old Ock. New Ock, he wa murdering Spider-Man.

so a win by KO is not a defeat now?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I'm talking about the writers intenttions are no different than the people who promote the matches.

writers' intentions have nothing to do with spiderman as far as he's concerned..he doesn'tknow they exist..BIG DIFFERENCE THERE...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Like I said if he reacts and responds in a faster attack, he's faster.

Yes normally, but keep in mind that parkers body is built for his own strength and speed by his own musculstature.

Spiderman can lift and pull himself 5 stories, can they?

spiderman's lifting and pulling abilities are not the discussion here..his speed is...he's not that much faster than a peak human....