Originally posted by jinzin
writers' intentions have nothing to do with spiderman as far as he's concerned..he doesn'tknow they exist..BIG DIFFERENCE THERE...
Not my point, its about the FANS, they keep the books going,and decide which characters go and stay.
Which is why wolverine has gotten more powerful.
I won't stray from the topic on this thread, Wolverine has nothing for Doc Ock if they are both at their best. Ock's tentacles are not as strong as Wolverines claws so Wolverine at his best might cut ONE off but would never be able to keep from getting grabbed by the others and two is all it would take to hold him helpless. His strength and speed are not enough to compensate for Ock's.
He could beat ock but this isn't about whether he could beat the odds or not.
Originally posted by The MISTER
I won't stray from the topic on this thread, Wolverine has nothing for Doc Ock if they are both at their best. Ock's tentacles are not as strong as Wolverines claws so Wolverine at his best might cut ONE off but would never be able to keep from getting grabbed by the others and two is all it would take to hold him helpless. His strength and speed are not enough to compensate for Ock's.He could beat ock but this isn't about whether he could beat the odds or not.
Agreed...
no...no....stalemate....yes.....
none of your questions address the point..spiderman is not WAY faster by any means..he's marginally faster....for a while...both his statistics and feats support this so it's worthless to debate..unles you guys are under the assumption that your opinion overrides solidified facts....stated facts....you probably do but..it's not the case..
There's a lot of talk about how Spider-Man should be more than only 12% faster than an ordinary/peak/whatever human because he can bench 15 tons of dead weight. I don't know if 12% is the exact number or anything, but before we get too caught up into real world physics and applying them too strongly to comics, I feel the need to point out something (since this is causing so much heated controversy):
Speed Demon runs at speeds of 175 miles per hour; Spider-Man could not move as fast as he could. Yet, Speed Demon can only press 1500 lbs with his legs under optimal conditions, which is far less than Spider-Man.
For a more well-known example, Quicksilver can press approximately 1 ton with his legs, yet he's far faster than Spider-Man. (Note: Spider-Man has reflexes three times as fast as Quicksilver, so there is no argument as to who might try to move faster.)
Don't get too caught up in placing real world physics in comic books, unless something hasn't been explained or compared yet. But we've already been shown that Spider-Man, whose legs are apparently far stronger than either Quicksilver or Speed Demon, isn't as fast. Does it make sense? Nope, but it's there, so we have to deal with it.
UUmm dont turn this into a spider-man vs wolverine argument.
What some of us are trying to say is that Spider-man is faster than wolverine. Spider-man gets hit by Ock, therefore very high chance of Wolverine getting hit by Ock. One hit will rip out organs. If an injured wolvie is fast enough to cut the tentacle then an injured wolverine gets hit by the remaining three. Its game over for Logan............
Originally posted by jinzin
"everything I've got"wasn't WAAAAAYY faster than wolverine could handle...hmmmmm
Please, how about people much faster than him, or like how wolverine's skin didn't get torn, but he can rip Iron Man's 2020's armor.
Why was peter fighting up close.
Anyway logan admitted peter could kick his ass at the end of the fight, right?
Originally posted by Wanderer259
There's a lot of talk about how Spider-Man should be more than only 12% faster than an ordinary/peak/whatever human because he can bench 15 tons of dead weight. I don't know if 12% is the exact number or anything, but before we get too caught up into real world physics and applying them too strongly to comics, I feel the need to point out something (since this is causing so much heated controversy):Speed Demon runs at speeds of 175 miles per hour; Spider-Man could not move as fast as he could. Yet, Speed Demon can only press 1500 lbs with his legs under optimal conditions, which is far less than Spider-Man.
For a more well-known example, Quicksilver can press approximately 1 ton with his legs, yet he's far faster than Spider-Man. (Note: Spider-Man has reflexes three times as fast as Quicksilver, so there is no argument as to who might try to move faster.)
Don't get too caught up in placing real world physics in comic books, unless something hasn't been explained or compared yet. But we've already been shown that Spider-Man, whose legs are apparently far stronger than either Quicksilver or Speed Demon, isn't as fast. Does it make sense? Nope, but it's there, so we have to deal with it.
spiderman has cumulative STRENGTH. he can LIFT alot of weight since his muscles have the cumulative strength of a spider. doesnt mean he can PUSH himself as QUICKLY as quicksilver
Originally posted by Wanderer259
There's a lot of talk about how Spider-Man should be more than only 12% faster than an ordinary/peak/whatever human because he can bench 15 tons of dead weight. I don't know if 12% is the exact number or anything, but before we get too caught up into real world physics and applying them too strongly to comics, I feel the need to point out something (since this is causing so much heated controversy):Speed Demon runs at speeds of 175 miles per hour; Spider-Man could not move as fast as he could. Yet, Speed Demon can only press 1500 lbs with his legs under optimal conditions, which is far less than Spider-Man.
For a more well-known example, Quicksilver can press approximately 1 ton with his legs, yet he's far faster than Spider-Man. (Note: Spider-Man has reflexes three times as fast as Quicksilver, so there is no argument as to who might try to move faster.)
Don't get too caught up in placing real world physics in comic books, unless something hasn't been explained or compared yet. But we've already been shown that Spider-Man, whose legs are apparently far stronger than either Quicksilver or Speed Demon, isn't as fast. Does it make sense? Nope, but it's there, so we have to deal with it.
Thats true, but thats within their abilities to do so, regardless of strenght too?