Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Hitler was a powerful oratory speaker. Not much of a politician. He was in the military and had a genius level IQ. But Hitler's main ability was that he was an incredible speaker, and many of his enemies later said of him that in order to hate him as passionately as they did, they made sure not to hear a single word of his speeches, for fear of being swayed.Anyways, Fishy, Emperor Revan even said Sidious was the greatest Sith Lord. Sidious's methods worked. Revan's, Malak's, and all the rest did not. Sidious took over the galaxy, the others did not. He may not be the most powerful - never said that. But he is the greatest for doing what no other Sith ever accomplished.
Exactly. He was great at swaying, manipulating and surrounding himself with loyal and powerful individuals. He found a niche and took advantage of it. He could charm the rivers into moving for him, but he was not intrinsically a good politician. A good politician is defined by making good DECISIONS, not by being able to sway the masses.
Neither Sidious nor Hitler made great decisions, especially when in power.
You tell me that a man who started as a seller of art on the street with no money and later become ruler of Europe is not talented?
By that same whim, you mean to tell me that a man that ruined his party, crippled his nation, managed to get his entire family to change their last name, had his own country's future generations hate him, and caused the greatest war in human history -- of which he LOST, is talented? Please 😛.
Yes, Fishy, we in essence agree to the same thing; Sidious was one of the most, if not the most, effective Sith ever.
Originally posted by Illustrious
Exactly. He was great at swaying, manipulating and surrounding himself with loyal and powerful individuals. He found a niche and took advantage of it. He could charm the rivers into moving for him, but he was not intrinsically a good politician. A good politician is defined by making good DECISIONS, not by being able to sway the masses.Neither Sidious nor Hitler made great decisions, especially when in power.
By that same whim, you mean to tell me that a man that ruined his party, crippled his nation, managed to get his entire family to change their last name, had his own country's future generations hate him, and caused the greatest war in human history -- of which he LOST, is talented? Please 😛.
Yes, Fishy, we in essence agree to the same thing; Sidious was one of the most, if not [b]the
most, effective Sith ever. [/B]
I agree on you with hitler he was a little *****. Augustus was the best politician of all time.
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Oh, Darth Sidious is probably not the most powerful Sith Lord. But like comparing other Star Wars entities against one another, you truly have nothing but pure speculation as who is stronger. Sidious is the greatest Sith Lord - no one truly disputes that - because he did conquer the galaxy and he is the only one to ever do it, in fact.But I doubt he is the most powerful. Perhaps the most cunning and most diabolical. And he is powerful. But not the most powerful.
Yes but he did it by deciet. And that IS a cowardally act.
He had the clones and Vader kill the Jedi. Making them out as Evil.
He Took over in the Senate. Not the battle field.
He Used that Moron Jar Jar binks to gain total power. not force.
THE MAN IS A COWARD!
Originally posted by Darth Somebodyi completely agree. EU or not video game or not i really dont think he is that great..people say he killed a bunch of sith and all this and that...i mean cmon jaden from Jedi Academy did that and he defeated a ancient sith lord. WTF how can some random jedi do that...it is unheard of and ridiculous for a story. i think revan is ok, but i dont think he deserves as much hype as he is getting
And trust me. There are more people babbling about how cool and how powerful Darth Revan is. It's also ridiculous.
Originally posted by Darth Calladus
i completely agree. EU or not video game or not i really dont think he is that great..people say he killed a bunch of sith and all this and that...i mean cmon jaden from Jedi Academy did that and he defeated a ancient sith lord. WTF how can some random jedi do that...it is unheard of and ridiculous for a story. i think revan is ok, but i dont think he deserves as much hype as he is getting
I agree. I don't like the uses of Video Game characters as a reference to a powerful force user. Within a video game, you have to have a lot of enemies to fight, or else the game becomes stale very soon.
I hardly believe that in the span of 50 some odd years, you could have Kun, Droma, Malak, Revan, The Exile, Nihilus, Traya, Sion, and the like all be considered in the top 30 of all time.
The era must either be by far the most loaded ever, or one of the most overblown and overrated eras in SW history.
I go with the latter. No doubt that the names mentioned are indeed very powerful, but to claim that Revan is the most powerful after based off a game is a bit rash.
why are we even talkin about hitler...even if it is for comparisons...jus the sound of his name makes me sick ...i dont care is he was great politician or leader (which i dont think he was) he was a horrible racist, he blamed the jews for all of germany's problems (when he was jewish himself), and his own subordinates made attempts on his life because he wuldnt give up when they losing the war. he is burning in hell right now and good riddance. Can we plz not mention him any more
Originally posted by Illustrious
I agree. I don't like the uses of Video Game characters as a reference to a powerful force user. Within a video game, you have to have a lot of enemies to fight, or else the game becomes stale very soon.I hardly believe that in the span of 50 some odd years, you could have Kun, Droma, Malak, Revan, The Exile, Nihilus, Traya, Sion, and the like all be considered in the top 30 of all time.
The era must either be by far the most loaded ever, or one of the most overblown and overrated eras in SW history.
I go with the latter. No doubt that the names mentioned are indeed very powerful, but to claim that Revan is the most powerful after based off a game is a bit rash.
I's overloaded retard because it's the golden age of the Sith.
Originally posted by HimoKun
No, if you actually new something about EU, you'll know that Ragnos proclaimed that when Exar took the title of Dark Lord it was pronounced the Golden Age of the Sith. And Freedon Nadd was not anywhere near Ajunta Pall or Marka for that matter. They were all spaced out differently.
Ragnos crowned Exar because he wanted Exar to take over the galaxy and make it the "Golden Age of the Sith". The Sith were practically dead by the time Exar took the throne. How is it the "golden era" when there were fewer Sith than the population in the Vatican?
If we had as much detail about the era surrounding Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow, it would probably contain MORE individuals of considerable power than the era in question. We already know about Simus, Ragnos, Sadow, and Kressh as is, even with the limited knowledge of the high era of the Sith Empire.
So yes, "retard", Revan's era was overblown.
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))True, true.
yes, Revan is far too overrated, its getting quite dumb. you have all these people saying that people think Sids is a god, but the Revan fanboys are far far worse.bottem line, Sidious is by far the best Sith lord to grace the works of Star Wars ever.
followed closely by Darth Vader.
Originally posted by JLRTENJACI've asked this before and have been scolded for it, but, what is it about Revan that everyone believes him to be the best? Is it his mask and billowing robe? Is it the fact that since you become accustomed to playing him that you feel your own character is reason enough to overly praise him?
What!? REVAN IS AWESOME!